Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

First of all, that was not a nasty response.

“Do you [I] feel the same about Clinton as you do about Trump in regards to their non-service?”

I don’t know what you mean by “non-service.”

And, I don’t know why Bill matters since he is no longer involved in politics. He did produce an budget that would have paid off he national debt in ten years...until the republican destroyed it.

We could discuss Richard Nixon who was a t*****r, but why, now that he is gone? We could discuss George W. Bush for monumental stupidity for getting us involved in war in the Middle Ease, particularly after Russia demonstrated for ten years that they couldn’t prevail there, even with their wildly shorter supply lines. Instead of six weeks of war or three months of war there, we now measure that war in generations.

So, how do we compare these two? Bill was a fine president, except for his sexual adventures which were certainly dishonest, vulgar and not dignified.

He was involved with tour or five women (I don’t remember the exact number) where Trump was involved with twenty that we know of.

Trump is well on his way to 10,000 verified lies in his campaign and first term, has had several of his administration arrested or charged with serious crimes, many involving selling our our nation, and others just greedy in despoiling honesty and public funds, lying and insider trading. His has got to be the most dishonest and incompetent p**********l cabinet in American history, and he the most dishonest and incompetent President in American history. He has turned the presidency into a personal profit center, taking direction from Putin, bought off by Xi, and taken advantage of by Kim. He has attacked NATO and G-7 at Putin’s direction, inflamed our nation into racial camps, fanning racial disunion, encouraging new-N**i groups, and compulsively attacked women.

He has accepted money from foreign governments, violating the emoluments clause of the constitution, used US troops and a gimmick on the border at the cost of two hundred million dollars, attacked the free press, which is one of the founding principalities of our government performing one of the most basic guarantees of a democratic government, attempted to destroy the FBI, and turned the US Government over to his corrupt friends and family of incompetents.

The USA is now the laughing stock of the world.

So...how do we compare these two in “non-service?”

No one can possibly compare Bill’s sexual adventures with Trump’s, or Bill’s honesty and competence in government with Trump’s failings, or Bill’s administration of eight years with Trump’s so far of two.

Wh**ever “non-service” you may accuse Bill of, it’s poor marks are only a tithe—far less than a tithe!—of Trump’s corruption, incompetence and failures.

“If you keep insisting Clinton does not matter, that tells me you do feel the same but are afraid to admit Clinton is the same as Trump.” This is a childish attempt to ask a question and load the answer in your benefit, but it is a clumsy failure.

No rational and thoughtful observer can equate Bill’s failures—and they are several—with Trump’s compulsion to dishonesty, his lying, his absolutely monumental corruption, his incompetence and his tawdry vulgarity.

I’m afraid you lose your challenge.

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Boohoohoo! Are you going to turn him into Admin? Are your little feelings hurt again? The Attic is more than you can handle...

Rose42

And wingers also think they have the knowledge to determine whether a war is justified or not. Ain't hindsight grand.

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

We knew at the time. You must have missed all the strife, it was a big deal.

Rose42

People thought they knew at the time but most had no idea. The US made a big mistake - if you're going in then go in to win. We went in half-a$$ed to the detriment of all.

One of the big problems with that war was politicians were making the decisions and that resulted in needless casualties. And those soldiers returning didn't deserve to be treated the way they were. It was shameful.

mwalsh Loc: Houston

The difference is you likely never called Bill a dodger when he was President, but are delighted to have anything negative to toss at trump.

Makes what you toss rather meaningless.

They are both draft dodgers...so what...

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

I was also in a safe MOS in Japan and here in the states. There were ways to serve without getting shot at, or having to shoot back. I am one of those that would seriously suffer from PTSD had I been put to the task of k*****g another Human, enemy or not.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

They are both draft dodgers, but that isn’t an important issue to me.

Bill Clinton is past and gone, and approve him or don’t, one wastes a lot of time lamenting history.

Trump, on the other hand, is today and two more years if he lasts that long—there’s something to resent and resist.

[“The difference is you likely never called Bill a dodger...”

Your entire post is based upon your assumption of what I may or may not have called Bill Clinton, and you actually have no idea what I called him or whether I called him anything—just a mindless assumption to get your lick in, right? So what, indeed!]

mwalsh Loc: Houston

Just an educated guess...kind of based on how I have never heard a single critical word from you towards Obama or Hillary or any other liberal leader.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Well, there you mis-speak, as my post—if you read it—criticized Bill Clinton.

But the subject wasn’t Liberal leaders, was it? You criticize me for not changing the subject?

The subject at hand was the “non-service” (wh**ever the hell that means) of Bill Clinton compared to that of Trump.

It was specific, and not a summary of every word I ever used about liberal politicians.

But you were so desperate to get a lick in, you wandered and searched and interrupted, but you got your lick in, didn’t you?

Unmeaning, unbecoming, out of contest, and off topic, but your glee is satiated, isn’t it?

Good for you.

I hope you feel better.

mwalsh Loc: Houston

If the "subject at hand" was non-service, you certainly wandered all over the place. That soft acknowledgment re Bill was hardly a criticism, esp compared to the hyperbole tossed at trump.

But do keep playing.