Distant shot through broken pane
Nov 9, 2018 14:28:20 #
Seeing Erich's fine window frame shot, I searched to see what I might have. Discovered an irritation, a "maybe." Shot from far away, cropped and enlarged, the idea of internal structure behind a broken facade really interested me. But the broken pane is not a good composition, and even with some clarification and noise removal the structures don't add to the composition--I think this in "interesting," the faint condemnation of photographic art, yet I like something. Thoughts?
Nov 9, 2018 15:06:54 #
Nov 9, 2018 16:16:43 #
Perhaps if you showed more of the external structure and not just that one window frame. Or find some way to emphasise that it's a case of "outside looking in", not the other way round. If the internal stuff is a bit on the dark side it wouldn't be cheating (much 
) to brighten it a bit so that it can compete with the bright glass.
) to brighten it a bit so that it can compete with the bright glass.Nov 10, 2018 06:55:45 #
artBob wrote:
Seeing Erich's fine window frame shot, I searched ... (show quote)
I like the substance and the possible composition of your photo. IMO the addition of the graphics frame is a mistake. And what is wrong with a little noise. If this were mine, I would have cropped less and utilized the additional space for white vignetting so that the window pane sort of faded into nothingness rather than hitting that frame you put around it.
Forgot to add... monotones would be good... I like the blue of the glass area.... in Topaz B&W2 there is a preset class of blues.
Nov 10, 2018 08:38:40 #
It’s nice the way it is--I think it would be “nicer” in black and white with just a bit of brown tone.
Nov 10, 2018 08:38:55 #
I find the internal structure interesting Bob - and the glass is OK, but Don is right about the frame, it doesn’t contribute.
EDIT: Looking again (I’m restricted to my iPhone at present), I see it’s a metal frame, not an addition. Pity. How about losing it and letting the glass do the framing?
EDIT: Looking again (I’m restricted to my iPhone at present), I see it’s a metal frame, not an addition. Pity. How about losing it and letting the glass do the framing?
Nov 10, 2018 14:11:25 #
I appreciate the comments, the suggestions, and, especially, the why's of the suggestions. Except that, now I've got to go to work on it!
Nov 10, 2018 14:21:14 #
artBob wrote:
I appreciate the comments, the suggestions, and, especially, the why's of the suggestions. Except that, now I've got to go to work on it!
Ta-dah! Okay, you grouches! How about THIS!?
Besides your good suggestions, I found that flipping the shot horizontally helped a lot to bring the eye back into the photo via the great curve in the broken pane.
Nov 10, 2018 14:23:19 #
Nov 10, 2018 14:28:11 #
Bob, I like this one.... Now the composition is diagonal and the glass is very interesting. If I had not seen the posted shot, I would see this B&W and try to figure out what it was. That mystery is a good thing one's eye are searching going up the diagonal incline and then hitting the curved glass and being redirected in a circular way. excellent... one of many variations that could be done.
Nov 10, 2018 17:05:03 #
artBob wrote:
Seeing Erich's fine window frame shot, I searched ... (show quote)
I think that it would be much more effective if you had only one thing to look at once you got past the broken glass. As it is, it seems a bit busy, and I don't know where my eye should go. No real focal point.
Erich
Nov 10, 2018 17:23:24 #
ebrunner wrote:
I think that it would be much more effective if you had only one thing to look at once you got past the broken glass. As it is, it seems a bit busy, and I don't know where my eye should go. No real focal point.
Erich
Erich
Erich, I take your comments quite seriously. Since I worked on the photo to give it a center of focus, using circular movement and radial composition to anchor the randomness of the interior wreckage, I wonder where that leaves us. Perhaps with just another uncertainty, eh, of different people's "tuning" to aesthetic and emotional surroundings.
Nov 10, 2018 17:25:18 #
Just for the fun of it, here's the original from which "Pane" was derived.
Nov 10, 2018 22:28:11 #
artBob wrote:
Just for the fun of it, here's the original from which "Pane" was derived.
I know you have done some really nice montages. That is not too different than a composite. I'm wondering how it would look to that the upper left broken pane of glass and place perhaps a dejected or forlorn figure behind it. Sort of a "window into the soul" type of thing to use a cliche. Barring that, I actually like the original better than the tight crop. With more panes to look at , the stuff inside does not have the same prominence that it has in the tight shot and it becomes less intrusive. I would, however, straighten the verticals in LR. I think that would look good.
Erich
Nov 11, 2018 01:41:42 #
ebrunner wrote:
. . . I actually like the original better than the tight crop. With more panes to look at , the stuff inside does not have the same prominence that it has in the tight shot and it becomes less intrusive. I would, however, straighten the verticals in LR. I think that would look good.
Erich
Erich
Bob, I agree with Erich here. I also like the original more. There is a decaying grittiness here that makes for an interesting photograph.
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