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Getting started with PTGui and Panoramas
Nov 9, 2018 01:09:54   #
dleebrick Loc: Indian Land, South Carolina
 
I'm just getting started with generating Panoramas with PTGui and am finding I quickly run out of 8Gb of memory with this project on my Win 10 PC. I'm trying to combine a dozen or so 30MB raw files. Do people not try to use full resolution images to generate panoramas or do I just need a bigger machine?

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Nov 9, 2018 04:32:37   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
dleebrick wrote:
I'm just getting started with generating Panoramas with PTGui and am finding I quickly run out of 8Gb of memory with this project on my Win 10 PC. I'm trying to combine a dozen or so 30MB raw files. Do people not try to use full resolution images to generate panoramas or do I just need a bigger machine?

You might want to post in the Panorama section: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-128-1.html

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Nov 9, 2018 07:40:50   #
jims203 Loc: Connecticut
 
Convert them to jpegs and then stitch or use Lightroom and double your memory.

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Nov 10, 2018 06:20:07   #
SonyBug
 
8 GB memory is too small for much photo management. I would upgrade to 16 or 32 and it will dramatically speed as well as allow bigger images to be processed.

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Nov 10, 2018 08:11:32   #
LarryFitz Loc: Beacon NY
 
I have an 8GB windows 10 system and use Microsoft ICE. I have switched together eleven 24MB CR2 (Canon Raw) without problem. Although, sometimes I eat lunch while it is processing.

Panorama section would be best place to obtain good info.

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Nov 10, 2018 08:42:56   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
Either (or both) buy more memory - its not expensive - or, as was said, convert to JPEG - but DO NOT process individual, images - stitch then process.

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Nov 10, 2018 09:21:02   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Since I, along with a fellow programmer, wrote our own stitching program, I'm unfamiliar with what other ones are on the market. I will provide a pointer on taking photographs you intend to stitch however. Set the camera on manual and turn off auto focus. Take one meter reading and use that throughout the photo series.

Up to a point, more RAM is a good thing. That along with a somewhat powerful processor.
--Bob
dleebrick wrote:
I'm just getting started with generating Panoramas with PTGui and am finding I quickly run out of 8Gb of memory with this project on my Win 10 PC. I'm trying to combine a dozen or so 30MB raw files. Do people not try to use full resolution images to generate panoramas or do I just need a bigger machine?

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Nov 10, 2018 09:44:59   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
dleebrick wrote:
I'm just getting started with generating Panoramas with PTGui and am finding I quickly run out of 8Gb of memory with this project on my Win 10 PC. I'm trying to combine a dozen or so 30MB raw files. Do people not try to use full resolution images to generate panoramas or do I just need a bigger machine?


Having processed many panos without a computer problem and since my PC uses 16GB of RAM I suggest doubling your's to 16 also.
I process the images as full resolution .dng files using PS ACR. Personally converting to jpeg first "leaves money on the table". Stitch first, process for the best image you can with all the data originally in your image files and store the final result before converting. That way you can always go back and reprocess if you want.

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Nov 10, 2018 10:17:38   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
dleebrick wrote:
I'm just getting started with generating Panoramas with PTGui and am finding I quickly run out of 8Gb of memory with this project on my Win 10 PC. I'm trying to combine a dozen or so 30MB raw files. Do people not try to use full resolution images to generate panoramas or do I just need a bigger machine?


The comments here around more memory and more powerful processors are certainly on target. In my case, that is not an option right now, though. Here is a response based on my experience. It may or may not help, but could be worth a try.

When I occasionally do processing in the field, I use an older Dell laptop with an I5 processor and 8 GB of RAM. This is far from ideal, but it is portable, and it is what I can take with me. Lightroom generally works fine on this machine, even if it's a little slow, but some of the more complex PhotoShop functions (warps and such) aren't available because this machine does not have an advanced graphics processor.

I have run into occasional problems building large panoramas in Lightroom, especially when there are a large number of component images or when for some reason the angle between images is too large and causes too big a change in perspective.

In some cases, I have had success by altering my process. Instead of identifying all 8 or 10 or 12 images and asking the software to build the panoramic image in one single step, I build "subassemblies," first by stitching pairs of images, then assembling those pairs into quads, then finally stitching two big subassemblies into my final panorama. Elsewhere on this site is a panoramic view of the mouth of Santa Elena Canyon at Big Bend National Park that I built in this way from 5 individual images. Lightroom for some reason just could not handle the individual images but worked fine in this adjusted manner. That particular case may or may not have been a memory problem. There were some pretty significant perspective changes. But the adjusted process worked fine.

As stated initially, this approach may or may not help in PTGUI. But it might be worth a try. If it does work, it would be cheaper and quicker than a new computer, at least for right now.

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Nov 10, 2018 11:53:41   #
lsupremo Loc: Palm Desert, CA
 
I recently ran into this same problem, you probably have two 4 mb memory’s. after looking into solutions, I googled “buy “ Nikon D7100 ram” and found a supplier and boug 2 8 mb rams for $42 and it solved the problem.

dleebrick wrote:
I'm just getting started with generating Panoramas with PTGui and am finding I quickly run out of 8Gb of memory with this project on my Win 10 PC. I'm trying to combine a dozen or so 30MB raw files. Do people not try to use full resolution images to generate panoramas or do I just need a bigger machine?

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Nov 10, 2018 12:01:40   #
lsupremo Loc: Palm Desert, CA
 
Sorry I screwed up. You need to google for your PC not your camera to find a supplier for more RAM.

dleebrick wrote:
I'm just getting started with generating Panoramas with PTGui and am finding I quickly run out of 8Gb of memory with this project on my Win 10 PC. I'm trying to combine a dozen or so 30MB raw files. Do people not try to use full resolution images to generate panoramas or do I just need a bigger machine?

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Nov 10, 2018 22:44:40   #
lsupremo Loc: Palm Desert, CA
 
I looked back in my emails and found I bought my Ram at Memorystock.com.

The memory way easy to install and worked fine.
lsupremo wrote:
Sorry I screwed up. You need to google for your PC not your camera to find a supplier for more RAM.

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Nov 11, 2018 14:36:26   #
dleebrick Loc: Indian Land, South Carolina
 
lsupremo wrote:
I recently ran into this same problem, you probably have two 4 mb memory’s. after looking into solutions, I googled “buy “ Nikon D7100 ram” and found a supplier and boug 2 8 mb rams for $42 and it solved the problem.


My machine is max'd out with 8Mb of memory. Looks like I'll have to get a newer system if I want to keep processing these panos. However, someone suggested that it might work to create sub-panos of a size that I can handle, then stitch them together to produce the final full image. I'll try that and see if that helps.

Thanks for all the comments and advice!

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