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Nov 7, 2018 19:59:04   #
bgrn Loc: Pleasant Grove UT
 
After going to the zoo last week and posting a few of the photos on here, it got me to thinking about something. My skills in post are very limited and I am not able to remove very many objects, I can use some of the sliders and a little spot work but at the moment not much else (as is evident that you can still see some of the back fence to the left of the tiger). The picture here was taken through a chain link fence, and also using an open aperture and the right distance, the fence did not show up in the picture as if it wasn't there. Looking at these I was thinking about a couple weeks ago when I was playing around with my macro on a fairly large spider with a new web, I was pretty close to the spider and when i focused out a long way on my grandson the spider didn't show up in the picture even though it was close to the lens and centered. I know this technique is something that most people on here use quite often. My curiosity is this...what kind of objects or what is the largest object you have been able to hide in your pictures by using this technique?


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Nov 7, 2018 20:21:51   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Great image! If you shoot with a hood and place it directly against the window, you can start to hide the glass barrier with some adjustments in contrast and make it seem it isn't there. Sometimes too, it helps to have a cloth to clean off the fingerprints from the window before getting started.

Green Tree Monitor

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Nov 7, 2018 20:24:39   #
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bgrn wrote:

..............
.... what kind of objects or what is the largest object
you have been able to hide in your pictures by using
this technique?

2.721000 million miles around, give
or take a few .....

And thaz just during the daytime. At
night, I can defocus whole galaxies !



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Nov 7, 2018 20:31:03   #
bgrn Loc: Pleasant Grove UT
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Great image! If you shoot with a hood and place it directly against the window, you can start to hide the glass barrier with some adjustments in contrast and make it seem it isn't there. Sometimes too, it helps to have a cloth to clean off the fingerprints from the window before getting started.

Green Tree Monitor


Looks nice! I tried to do this at our local aquarium, i have to admit that was way beyond my current abilities. I'll have to try it again on some reptiles that are not moving.

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Nov 7, 2018 20:31:34   #
bgrn Loc: Pleasant Grove UT
 
User ID wrote:
864,337.3 mi +/-

:-)


Funny! but great picture

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Nov 7, 2018 20:47:54   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
bgrn wrote:
Looks nice! I tried to do this at our local aquarium, i have to admit that was way beyond my current abilities. I'll have to try it again on some reptiles that are not moving.

The aquarium is harder. The hood on the glass and tracking a moving subject is next to impossible. Look instead at the angle of the glare and get in a shooting position the glare doesn't impact your image. Spend several minutes watching how / where the fish move and prepare for where they'll travel in front of your position.

African Cichlid

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Nov 7, 2018 21:01:48   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
bgrn wrote:
After going to the zoo last week and posting a few of the photos on here, it got me to thinking about something. My skills in post are very limited and I am not able to remove very many objects, I can use some of the sliders and a little spot work but at the moment not much else (as is evident that you can still see some of the back fence to the left of the tiger). The picture here was taken through a chain link fence, and also using an open aperture and the right distance, the fence did not show up in the picture as if it wasn't there. Looking at these I was thinking about a couple weeks ago when I was playing around with my macro on a fairly large spider with a new web, I was pretty close to the spider and when i focused out a long way on my grandson the spider didn't show up in the picture even though it was close to the lens and centered. I know this technique is something that most people on here use quite often. My curiosity is this...what kind of objects or what is the largest object you have been able to hide in your pictures by using this technique?
After going to the zoo last week and posting a few... (show quote)


Nice photo..... The fence does not show because it is out of the focus range. This happens because of depth of field. It depends on how far away, aperature, and focal length. A 50 mm lens at f2 with the Lions at 30 feet away will give you a depth of field of about 8 feet, with about 40% in front of the focus point, and 60% behind. The fence is way out that range....if you close down the aperature, the fence will begin to show. What ever you did in this instance, remember it.....I have an app on my phone that I use, HyperFocal Pro. That I can use to find the best DOF that I want for the lens and aperature and distance. In actuality, it's hard to use in the field. Animals move. But it is a good learning tool.

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Nov 7, 2018 21:05:04   #
Floyd Loc: Misplaced Texan in Florence, Alabama
 
Nice, nice picture. I think, however, that the cats are leopards and not lions.

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Nov 7, 2018 21:46:05   #
bgrn Loc: Pleasant Grove UT
 
frankraney wrote:
Nice photo..... The fence does not show because it is out of the focus range. This happens because of depth of field. It depends on how far away, aperature, and focal length. A 50 mm lens at f2 with the Lions at 30 feet away will give you a depth of field of about 8 feet, with about 40% in front of the focus point, and 60% behind. The fence is way out that range....if you close down the aperature, the fence will begin to show. What ever you did in this instance, remember it.....I have an app on my phone that I use, HyperFocal Pro. That I can use to find the best DOF that I want for the lens and aperature and distance. In actuality, it's hard to use in the field. Animals move. But it is a good learning tool.
Nice photo..... The fence does not show because it... (show quote)


Thanks, I understand the principles as to why, I was just curious as to how large of an object people have been able to hide outside of the focal range. I do like the idea of this AP. i'm going to have to check it out.

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Nov 7, 2018 23:03:14   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Floyd wrote:
Nice, nice picture. I think, however, that the cats are leopards and not lions.


At the end of the 2nd (long) sentence, OP refers to a tiger. Which is not a lion. ;)

But yes the pic posted is of a leopard and her cub.

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Nov 7, 2018 23:08:58   #
bgrn Loc: Pleasant Grove UT
 
JD750 wrote:
At the end of the 2nd (long) sentence, OP refers to a tiger. Which is not a lion. ;)

But yes the pic posted is of a leopard and her cub.


Looks like I stand corrected 👍

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Nov 8, 2018 07:41:22   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
bgrn wrote:
After going to the zoo last week and posting a few of the photos on here, it got me to thinking about something. My skills in post are very limited and I am not able to remove very many objects, I can use some of the sliders and a little spot work but at the moment not much else (as is evident that you can still see some of the back fence to the left of the tiger). The picture here was taken through a chain link fence, and also using an open aperture and the right distance, the fence did not show up in the picture as if it wasn't there. Looking at these I was thinking about a couple weeks ago when I was playing around with my macro on a fairly large spider with a new web, I was pretty close to the spider and when i focused out a long way on my grandson the spider didn't show up in the picture even though it was close to the lens and centered. I know this technique is something that most people on here use quite often. My curiosity is this...what kind of objects or what is the largest object you have been able to hide in your pictures by using this technique?
After going to the zoo last week and posting a few... (show quote)


There is an excellent Swedish photographer Anna Plewuch on Canon Camera Users has amazing shots of animals. I asked her if she was on safari or what. She said no they are all local zoo photos. The site is on FB and look at her work, you would not guess they are zoo photos in Sweden.
That said, I have seldom tried to hide an object as you use focus and aperture to hide it or make it disappear. Through fences is what I generally use the technique for. Otherwise I try to adjust my position to avoid such obstacles.
Your spider web technique I have seen in movies done that way now that you mention it.
Interesting topic, has me thinking. Thank you.

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Nov 8, 2018 08:03:59   #
banster Loc: PA, Ontario, N.C.,Key West
 
That’s some slider you got there. Not only did it eliminate the fence, it changed both cats from tigers to leopards. Neat!

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Nov 8, 2018 08:44:09   #
CaptainPhoto
 
banster wrote:
That’s some slider you got there. Not only did it eliminate the fence, it changed both cats from tigers to leopards. Neat!


A little humor goes a long way.

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Nov 8, 2018 08:54:38   #
CPR Loc: Nature Coast of Florida
 
Removing objects, be they a water spot or Uncle Harry, from a photo takes a pixel level tool like Photoshop. Once you get comfortable with Photoshop you may rarely go back to Lightroom.

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