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Nov 8, 2018 08:24:50   #
jerryc41 (a regular here)
 
[quote=dione961]
CHG_CANON wrote:
Don't want to annoy folk though.


No one should be annoyed by a question. It's the rude, unhelpful replies that are annoying.

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Nov 8, 2018 08:44:07   #
StanMac (a regular here)
 
My observation on your wanting to separate the swans from the background is that your subject (the swans) are still too far away from the camera to get that separation even at f/5.6. Check the depth of field at your focus distance to see if infinity is within that range.

Stan

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Nov 8, 2018 10:32:35   #
Billynikon
 
Dave is right, the lens at 5.6 will not give good bokeh. Try a 50mm 1.4, rent it, and you will see a real difference.

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Nov 8, 2018 10:33:39   #
leftj
 
lamiaceae wrote:
You are doing something wrong. What do yo mean Aperture Priority and Camera set shutter speed and ISO? That is not AP but some odd-ball Auto-ISO mode! What camera are you using? Blank frames could be the camera is set for some sort of bracketing or multiple exposures.


He means He set the Aperture and left shutter speed and ISO on Auto. That is indeed Aperture priority.

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Nov 8, 2018 11:06:07   #
tommystrat (a regular here)
 
lamiaceae wrote:
You are doing something wrong. What do yo mean Aperture Priority and Camera set shutter speed and ISO? That is not AP but some odd-ball Auto-ISO mode! What camera are you using? Blank frames could be the camera is set for some sort of bracketing or multiple exposures.


It's entirely possible to use Aperture Priority and Auto ISO at the same time. It's not an "oddball mode" but a basic setting pattern, unless you are using a kiddie camera.

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Nov 8, 2018 11:12:34   #
tommystrat (a regular here)
 
dave.m wrote:
dione961,

I am not a Nikon user but Strodav has good advice so offer some additional general comments:

Good luck and keep on trying and remember that modern cameras can get it right automatically probably 60 or 70% of the time, and are ok for maybe another 20% Fiddling with the setting yourself will enhance or improve the other 30%. But the real challenge - for me anyway - is the composition with the 'wow' factor :)


What a helpful, thoughtful and understanding comment! More of this type of response to an OP's query and less of the snark factor would go a long way towards making the Hog a more inviting and friendlier forum. And, goodness knows, a friendlier space in today's social environment would be most welcome! ;-)

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Nov 8, 2018 11:13:15   #
tommystrat (a regular here)
 
jerryc41 wrote:
No one should be annoyed by a question. It's the rude, unhelpful replies that are annoying.





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Nov 8, 2018 11:18:53   #
Flying Three
 
Linda: your comments are always so instructive and GENTLE. Thank you

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Nov 8, 2018 11:43:08   #
Linda From Maine (a regular here)
 
Flying Three wrote:
Linda: your comments are always so instructive and GENTLE. Thank you
Appreciate your appreciation The ego-driven sarcasm and ridicule on this site - especially towards new members who are also new to photography - is unconscionable.

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Nov 8, 2018 12:10:16   #
wapiti
 
rb61 wrote:
I use auto ISO in AP and SP modes quite often in the right situations. I find that I can obtain very usable images up to 3200. I would rather have a properly exposed image than a blurry or underexposed image when light conditions change dramatically while I am concentrating on keeping the subject (usually wildlife or more importantly once in-a-lifetime family sports action) in the viewfinder.

We all have different requirements for our hobbies.



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Nov 8, 2018 13:34:52   #
BebuLamar (a regular here)
 
I do not think you break something. I would suggest that you try again this time with the auto ISO turned off. I am not saying the problem you had because of auto ISO as I use auto ISO with A mode often. In fact it's the only time I use auto ISO. When i use M mode I don't use auto ISO. You should try again.

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Nov 8, 2018 14:40:37   #
dione961
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Two thoughts. 1) Did you shoot RAW? If so this is easily managed in PP. 2) I really like shot B. It is just spooky as all get out. I would just accept it as a happy accident.


Hi, not shooting RAW yet - Fine JPEG only, as I don't have PP or LV, only the Nikon editing suite, & 95% of its terms I don't understand yet. So I only crop for symmetry if that's what I want, and straighten the horizon if I need. The weird result of the shots I posted yesterday turns out to be user error (inevitable) - I'm shooting in below zero temperatures & often windy as well, so my hands are always very cold (can't seem to change anything on the camera wearing gloves yet), so, it seems I may have only partly set the camera in AP mode & not locked it in then I've bumped it around to SP mode while panning, is my guess.

Your comment on shot b is exciting though because I really like shooting in the dark & the photo you have on this site is incredibly cool - the best I've seen here by far. I started trying to shoot in almost no light before I even knew what AP, SP, P, and a million other settings are (& still mostly don't). I love capturing "true" life & the planet as I see them, mainly because other people often seem to like what I shoot (great subjects & a freakish good camera helps a lot!). But, I really like to see what can come out of the dark. Shot (a) here is my first ever effort; shot (b), 4 spooky swans - posted as thanks for your always kind comments. Have a super day - I'm off to continue trying to get DOF sorted.
Dione





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Nov 8, 2018 14:53:45   #
Jeannie88
 
[quote=dione961]Tried using Aperture Priority mode for 1st time this morning (D7200). Outdoors, overcast sky but not super dark; windy. Wanted to isolate some swans from the background & foreground. Set aperture at f/5.6; zoom at 140 mm. Camera set shutter speed at 1/250 & ISO at 3600 (seems way high??). Used Auto focus. Shot a (& another 10 like it) are well out of focus (but no tripod, so some camera shake) and too dark but subject is visible. However, with just a few seconds between shot a & shot b below, no change in conditions or light and no changes to camera settings by me, the ISO dropped to 125 & every shot from shot b onwards is almost completely black. Same thing taking next 8 shots of the swans, and a shot in a room with 2 large windows (only the window aimed at is visible, the room is pitch black). Auto mode with flash shoots OK. So, back to drawing board studying up on aperture, the Aperture Priority mode & the whole exposure triangle?[/quot

Please don't be discouraged. Learning your camera is not always an easy task. I started out learning how to shoot in aperture mode, and then went to manual mode, except I admit, being a mostly wildlife shooter, I do use Auto Iso. The camera system I am using now, Olympus EM1M2 does a fine job with Auto iso, Much better than my old Nikons.

One tip I have learned is to use a high shutter speed when I am shooting wildlife and have a long lens. That also helps compensate for any shake

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Nov 8, 2018 15:08:40   #
d3200prime
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Dione, all you need to do is <Reply> to any post in this thread and re-attach the dark example and check 'store original' as highlighted below.



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Nov 8, 2018 17:11:05   #
Flying Three
 
Agreed

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