Shooting School Sports
Nov 1, 2018 12:08:38 #
To gain more experience and have some fun, I am interested in shooting High School sports. I have a good buddy who is the principal of a high school in an affluent neighborhood nearby. I am having lunch with him tomorrow to see about doing it. I'm talking about football games, basketball, volleyball, track and field and such. I am wondering about coach and parent interactions, the "pedophile sensitivities" risks, model releases, and so on. I imagine he can fill me it. At first, I will not be charging, trade for the experience. To any school sports shooters out there, any words of advice would be greatly appreciated!
Nov 1, 2018 12:25:43 #
ppage wrote:
To gain more experience and have some fun, I am in... (show quote)
Even though you don't charge what you said meant you are still going to shoot for your clients. So instead of shooting like a reporter you will be shooting whatever the players and the parents want to have?
Nov 1, 2018 12:29:55 #
I'm a photographer and I also work facilities maintenance at a school. Anyone in the State of California has to be Live Scanned that is in any way associated with the school - employee's, volunteers, everyone. There is a strict policy that children are not to photographed unless you are specifically asked or hired to do so. No photo's taken can be shared or distributed outside the school's own system unless specifically authorized by the school and Parent. I'm sure your friend will be able to fill you in on the particulars.
ppage wrote:
To gain more experience and have some fun, I am in... (show quote)
Nov 1, 2018 12:30:40 #
In the UK anyone who 'works' in a school environment has to have a Criminal Records Disclosure...which also covers people working with 'vulnerable adults' etc. The employer can arrange this. Probably is a similar requirement from State. check.
If you work for the school, then it is up to them to inform the parents of your role. Parental choice should be the schools responsibility to 'censor' out those children's images when required....They have more knowledge of 'who is who'.
The fact that you are not charging has no relevance.
Perhaps providing a CV of any previous employment in a child orientated role may be a positive step.
Telling parents that you are 'shooting' their children probably is not a great start.......! Delete shooting from your vocabulary at all times.
Perhaps this can give you food for thought.
Have fun
If you work for the school, then it is up to them to inform the parents of your role. Parental choice should be the schools responsibility to 'censor' out those children's images when required....They have more knowledge of 'who is who'.
The fact that you are not charging has no relevance.
Perhaps providing a CV of any previous employment in a child orientated role may be a positive step.
Telling parents that you are 'shooting' their children probably is not a great start.......! Delete shooting from your vocabulary at all times.
Perhaps this can give you food for thought.
Have fun
Nov 1, 2018 12:34:03 #
G Brown wrote:
In the UK anyone who 'works' in a school environme... (show quote)
Can we take 'shooting' off the vocabulary when it means photographing?
Nov 1, 2018 12:37:03 #
I want to shoot like a reporter but I was thinking that inevitably a kid or a parent is going to ask for shots or ask me if I will have the shots available. I have a smugmug website and have the ability to create galleries to point them to and if they want any of the images they see they can download them after paying a small charge.
BebuLamar wrote:
Even though you don't charge what you said meant you are still going to shoot for your clients. So instead of shooting like a reporter you will be shooting whatever the players and the parents want to have?
Nov 1, 2018 12:38:53 #
Certainly, that would be best and I'll not make that mistake again. Thanks,
BebuLamar wrote:
Can we take 'shooting' off the vocabulary when it means photographing?
Nov 1, 2018 12:40:49 #
BebuLamar wrote:
Can we take 'shooting' off the vocabulary when it means photographing?
No. Been shooting (photographs) for the past 50 years. Don't see any reason to change that term now. People need to actually and actively listen, not grope for ways to be offended.
Nov 1, 2018 12:49:21 #
No, in these times, that is a reasonable sensitivity and anyone in a service to others role needs to be aware of that and respect these situations. The term doesn't need to be changed, it is just wholly inappropriate in this context.
chuck1376 wrote:
No. Been shooting (photographs) for the past 50 years. Don't see any reason to change that term now. People need to actually and actively listen, not grope for ways to be offended.
Nov 1, 2018 12:59:02 #
chuck1376 wrote:
No. Been shooting (photographs) for the past 50 years. Don't see any reason to change that term now. People need to actually and actively listen, not grope for ways to be offended.
Or go ballistic.....
(Am I allowed to say that?)
Nov 1, 2018 13:29:03 #
DanielB wrote:
I'm a photographer and I also work facilities main... (show quote)
I find this interesting. In sports the players are in a public setting, on public grounds. The school can certainly restrict your access for ideal photos on the field. But I don't believe they can legally stop you in taking photos in a public sporting event. I travel all over the US shooting sports and have never ran into this. I contact the AD or Media relations in advance to get my clearances and off I go.
Nov 1, 2018 13:42:42 #
Good to know. I want to get behind the goal post, under the basket and right next to the net in high school sports. I want be on the floor, on the field and up close and personal so I want that access. These day s people are real touchy around issues with kids and I don't blame them. I can't imagine getting that kind of access without working with the coaches and staff to set it up ahead of time and get some credentials.
PaulR01 wrote:
I find this interesting. In sports the players are in a public setting, on public grounds. The school can certainly restrict your access for ideal photos on the field. But I don't believe they can legally stop you in taking photos in a public sporting event. I travel all over the US shooting sports and have never ran into this. I contact the AD or Media relations in advance to get my clearances and off I go.
Nov 1, 2018 13:57:30 #
To gain experience with indoor sports I drive over to the local community college and shoot their hoops games from time to time. I move around the court, positioning myself pretty much wherever I want, while making a point to stay out of the way of the players, and no one has ever said a thing to me. I don't sell my photos and the game takes place on public property, which is pretty much the definition of a "community" college, so I have never worried about any permissions.
Nov 1, 2018 13:57:30 #
To gain experience with indoor sports I drive over to the local community college and shoot their hoops games from time to time. I move around the court, positioning myself pretty much wherever I want, while making a point to stay out of the way of the players, and no one has ever said a thing to me. I don't sell my photos and the game takes place on public property, which is pretty much the definition of a "community" college, so I have never worried about any permissions.
Nov 1, 2018 13:59:37 #
ppage wrote:
Good to know. I want to get behind the goal post, under the basket and right next to the net in high school sports. I want be on the floor, on the field and up close and personal so I want that access. These day s people are real touchy around issues with kids and I don't blame them. I can't imagine getting that kind of access without working with the coaches and staff to set it up ahead of time and get some credentials.
This isn't a good site for talking sports photography. To many what ifs and not facts generalized to their area. Been doing it semi professionally for 10 years now. Best to get with the AD and work it out with the director or the districts media relations. Second, it helps if you supply a few shots now and then for no charge for the schools in house newspaper or annual staff. (It's helps get your name out.) If marketing to the parents you will need a website and their will be monthly costs involved. If you are shooting big school football you can do it with a 70-200 but if shooting from behind the goal primarily. You will need long glass ie..300 or 400mm. Wide fast long lenses don't come cheap be prepared. And last gear insurance is a must. Just had a mirror replaced in my 1D body from a receiver running thru the back endzone on a D1 College game and grazing me after I had dropped the camera on my neck and was dodging him.
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