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Oct 26, 2018 05:38:48   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
G Brown wrote:
Why have a work ethic when you are treated as a child until your mid twenties. Then you still don't get paid any more, as 'minimum wage' is now endemic.

You have a zero hours contract and no benefits. Your Employer's contribution to your pension can be as little as 1% of your income just so long as the last place you worked stays in business. Your 'interest' will be subject to the state of the stock market. Your pension pays out only if you live to be 70 in the UK at the moment - but may disappear at any time. (Too Many have already)

You have no 'employment rights' as no-one is available to prosecute those that breach even 'Human rights'. The few Unions we have left are for full time 'Local Government Employees'. Odd that....as it was the government that stated 'Unions' were bad....and encouraged their dismantlement!

The reason we have so many people on a pro-rata rate working just 16 hours a week is so that they cannot bump up the Benefits rate (which is based upon 20 hours a week).

People in work now use the 'free food banks'.

OUR GENERATION DOES NOTHING ABOUT IT.......which is the biggest shame of all!

so enjoy your self service....continue to make 'rules' as to when you tip.....and 'wonder why' youngsters live 'in a world of their own'.....Reality stinks.

That's my rant over.
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Oct 26, 2018 06:00:23   #
Ollieboy
 
On a recent trip to Wal-Mart only the self check out registers were open at 7:30 am. They are limited to 20 items. I had over 20 items and asked a supervisor what I should do. She shrugged her shoulders and said there was no one in yet to open the regular registers. I just left my cart in the aisle and left. It seems Wal-Mart and others are having a major personell problems. It seems raising their wages didn't matter.

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Oct 26, 2018 06:08:17   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
Jerry I just don't buy what you were told and you should take a deep look at the "story" you were told- I worked in the grocery stores for 40 yrs '53 to '96 - ya- I have been retired from the business for 22 yrs but I have and still do all the grocery shoping and keep up with the operations of store and handling of employees as well as customer service. #1 NO employer would tolerate or keep a person /crew who acted like these mentioned. #2 Yes the DIY checkouts are designed to cut labor - large store with 4 yo 6 self check stands cuts at lest 2 people out of work- 2 clerks $10 hr X 40hrs $800 a week $41,600 a yr savings in each store adds up and the list goes on
yes - work ethic have gone into the tank with this spoiled lazy generation But the fact still remains that there are folks whose jobs are to figure out how can we get more done with less labor costs.And they are doing that by getting the customer to do the work they are paying to have done by shopping there - give me a discount and I'll gladly check myself out.

jerryc41 wrote:
When they were first introduced, I avoided self-service cash checkouts because I thought they were taking jobs from people. I know someone who works in retail, and these DIY stations are not putting people out of work. In his store, it's not unusual for half a dozen people to just not show up for work. Maybe they will call and say they're coming in, but generally, they just don't show up. One day last week, there was only one person available to work a register. Without the DIY stations, they would have had a major problem. The store is paying a decent salary, well above the minimum. People don't show up, or they take extended breaks and lunches. This behavior covers all age ranges, from young to old. I can't understand it. I was in a supermarket last week, and only one register was open. A manager said that five people had called in "sick."

When I was in high school, I worked in a supermarket, and people showed up on time and did their work. We could count on each other to keep things flowing smoothly. So, don't turn your nose up at these self-service checkouts. They exist for your convenience.
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Oct 26, 2018 06:13:14   #
cochese
 
As a manager in a production facility I see it all the time. Even finding employees willing to work is difficult. Some will be hired and will leave at their first break and not return. Those that do stay want full pay and bennefitss the day they start. It is called an entry level position because you need to learn the skills. And advance accordingly. The ones that do stay are nowhere near ready for the workplace. I have had workers start that can do calculus in their head, but struggle just to fill out basic paperwork to become employed. Many expect that they will spend several weeks in a training program and have to be told that the training will be in the plant making product. And then they expect a salary increase after the orientation whether they have achieved the goals clearly laid out in their job description or not. Many do not even read the policy manual then become offended when they are reprimanded for not following policy. I did not raise my children that way. All were required to get jobs when they turned sixteen. They were required to follow policies, be on time, and work their schedule. ALL of them were required to work for me at home most of their lives, all had chores... No chores, no allowance. And you could get a siblings share of the allowance by doing their chores. Substandard work was not acceptable, if it was done poorly it was done over. More parents need to teach kids the value of work. No wonder companies send work overseas, who wants to deal with the work force here?

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Oct 26, 2018 06:16:51   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
One survey showed that a large percentage (don't remember the exact number, but it was around 50% or more) of young people interviewed would not take a job that prohibited them from looking at social media while at work. I think most of us "older folks" just accepted that showing up at work on time ready to work was just simply what you did - if you wanted that job!

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Oct 26, 2018 07:32:10   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
Work ethic starts at home by and with the parents. Today's parents! It's no wonder the work ethic of this generation is so questionable.

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Oct 26, 2018 07:58:13   #
printer273
 
Welcome to 2018 many people want to make $100,000 but not work for it. When the government handouts exceed minimum wage it encourages people not to work. No pride now a days just show me the money for being irresponsible. Stop the free government handouts for those physically able to work and things might change.
jerryc41 wrote:
When they were first introduced, I avoided self-service cash checkouts because I thought they were taking jobs from people. I know someone who works in retail, and these DIY stations are not putting people out of work. In his store, it's not unusual for half a dozen people to just not show up for work. Maybe they will call and say they're coming in, but generally, they just don't show up. One day last week, there was only one person available to work a register. Without the DIY stations, they would have had a major problem. The store is paying a decent salary, well above the minimum. People don't show up, or they take extended breaks and lunches. This behavior covers all age ranges, from young to old. I can't understand it. I was in a supermarket last week, and only one register was open. A manager said that five people had called in "sick."

When I was in high school, I worked in a supermarket, and people showed up on time and did their work. We could count on each other to keep things flowing smoothly. So, don't turn your nose up at these self-service checkouts. They exist for your convenience.
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Oct 26, 2018 08:03:26   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
printer273 wrote:
Welcome to 2018 many people want to make $100,000 but not work for it. When the government handouts exceed minimum wage it encourages people not to work. No pride now a days just show me the money for being irresponsible. Stop the free government handouts for those physically able to work and things might change.


Well said. I agree.

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Oct 26, 2018 08:39:57   #
Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV
 
Self check outs will take jobs! Similar to a friend I had at the airport. I flew out every Monday morning and enjoyed chatting with the guy that checked my bag. Then they put a self check in machine and he tried to talk me into using it every week. I told him it was his replacement but he laughed it off. 3 years later, there were 3 machines there and he was gone.

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Oct 26, 2018 08:51:19   #
rdemarco52 Loc: Wantagh, NY
 
Unfortunately, responsibility is not stressed today. When I was a teen, I delivered newspapers in all kinds of weather and never missed a day. You can see the lackadaisical attitiude and lack of commitment to the job in almost any fast food restaurant (except the McDonalds in my town, which always has the same crew working hard every day).

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Oct 26, 2018 10:11:05   #
sr71 Loc: In Col. Juan Seguin Land
 
Blaster34 wrote:
The basic minimum wage should be zero, you should be paid based on your skill level. As overhead rises automation takes over, especially with the increase in minimum wage in fast food industry.


and you would work for .50 cents a day?

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Oct 26, 2018 10:35:33   #
polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.
 
marine73 wrote:
Personally I hate self checkout, it provides people a reason for not showing up for work and also provides a greater opportunity for someone to steal from a company that has these. The only reason to have these stations is to increase the bottom line for the company because they don't have to pay wages or benefits.

I don't know where al13 worked that he got paid for his sick time when he retired but my company doesn't pay out for unused sick time and they threaten termination when ever you do use it.
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Oct 26, 2018 10:38:02   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
sr71 wrote:
and you would work for .50 cents a day?


Employer sets the wage, not the government. No skills, no pay, not to hard to figure out in a Capitalist system...Employer determines what they need in a work force and skilled people will be paid accordingly....based on competition. Learn a skill and/or experience, get paid for it.

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Oct 26, 2018 12:14:00   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
marine73 wrote:
I don't know where al13 worked that he got paid for his sick time when he retired but my company doesn't pay out for unused sick time and they threaten termination when ever you do use it.


And remember when companies also offered health insurance and a retirement program? We're becoming a minimalist society.

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Oct 26, 2018 12:16:38   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Harvey wrote:
Jerry I just don't buy what you were told and you should take a deep look at the "story" you were told- I worked in the grocery stores for 40 yrs '53 to '96 - ya- I have been retired from the business for 22 yrs but I have and still do all the grocery shoping and keep up with the operations of store and handling of employees as well as customer service. #1 NO employer would tolerate or keep a person /crew who acted like these mentioned. #2 Yes the DIY checkouts are designed to cut labor - large store with 4 yo 6 self check stands cuts at lest 2 people out of work- 2 clerks $10 hr X 40hrs $800 a week $41,600 a yr savings in each store adds up and the list goes on
yes - work ethic have gone into the tank with this spoiled lazy generation But the fact still remains that there are folks whose jobs are to figure out how can we get more done with less labor costs.And they are doing that by getting the customer to do the work they are paying to have done by shopping there - give me a discount and I'll gladly check myself out.
Jerry I just don't buy what you were told and you ... (show quote)


I hate to disagree, but not showing up for work is becoming the norm.

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