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Oct 25, 2018 08:44:44   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
Exposure compensation?


Maybe, if he was in a mode that allows setting EC. But we have no way of knowing since he has yet to tell us.

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Oct 25, 2018 09:12:32   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Last exit on the GSP? You're practically a New Yorker. I'm down a ways in Edison.

Not that far up the GSP, but really close to I-80. I’m about 10 min. From Morristown, and make it to NYC in about 30 min. (Without traffic)

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Oct 25, 2018 09:18:18   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Cookie223 wrote:
Not that far up the GSP, but really close to I-80. I’m about 10 min. From Morristown, and make it to NYC in about 30 min. (Without traffic)


I live in Philly and often drive up that way when heading to New England. Always take 287 through NJ. (I have learned to ignore GPS [not GSP ], which always wants me to go across the GWB)

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Oct 25, 2018 09:23:57   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
dsmeltz wrote:
I live in Philly and often drive up that way when heading to New England. Always take 287 through NJ. (I have learned to ignore GPS [not GSP ], which always wants me to go across the GWB)

I’m right off of I-287

As soon as I get a chance I’ll send the setting information that caused the washout.
Take care.

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Oct 25, 2018 11:58:39   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
Cookie223 wrote:
DS & PH,

The setting that I manually reduced towards darker was the exposure setting. If this is confusing for you guys, imagine what it's like for me.


Exposure can be lowered in many ways. Exposure is a combination of shutter speed, aperture and ISO. Other controls such as exposure compensation wind up affecting one or more of those 3. The mode you are in affects which of the 3 exposure compensation or "lowering a match needle" will affect. So what mode are you in and which way are you reducing exposure?

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Oct 25, 2018 17:11:41   #
Photocraig
 
WOW, Cookie. I've been shooting Canon for almost 3 decades, and this thread, 'cept for Linda, has ME confused. The 7DII is very configurable and you should set it up carefully. I have found that my thumb gets confused on which back button I'm pressing and why. I advise De-coupling the shutter button focus in the tools menu and using Back Button Focus all the time. BUT with the many 7DII choices and what seems to be some limited experience on your part, I'd get help. Maybe a You Tube on how to set up your 7DII by Jared Polin, Tony Northrup or another talking head of your liking who 'splains along the way might help. Watch it with camera in hand and follow along, pausing when needed.

Luckily, you're in New Jersey. There are resources across the River where you can get help. The B&H and Adorama folks are great (buy a filter or something as a good gesture for their help--a lens would make them happy). Wherever you bought the camera should be helpful, I hope. Canon has multiple workshops where their people will straighten you out, along with the value of the workshop topic. And Canon USA offers a one on one with a Top Pro session at a cost. Check them out. Also Canon USA website has chats with technicians and phone consults which are excellent. The Manuals are less than good. BUT, they have great documentation for frequently asked questions. I suspect the 7DII is a record breaker for these questions. I can't WAIT until I upgrade.
Do not despair. All these features are for somebody's good reason. Seek and you will find your answer.
C

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Oct 25, 2018 21:33:20   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
PHRubin wrote:
Exposure can be lowered in many ways. Exposure is a combination of shutter speed, aperture and ISO. Other controls such as exposure compensation wind up affecting one or more of those 3. The mode you are in affects which of the 3 exposure compensation or "lowering a match needle" will affect. So what mode are you in and which way are you reducing exposure?


I’ve tried to get the settings that caused the washout, but my son in law is in Orlando with my granddaughter who is in a softball tournament, and has my camera. He know just about as much as I do, and I told him to note which selection of the dial he uses especially if the pictures are too bright.

I started at ISO 100, auto WB. Shutter speed range was 8000 (highest) and 30” ( lowest). Aperture f/11 / 5.6. Continuous shooting speed is 10 shots. AI Servo.

When I saw the washout I changed the ISO from 100 to 1250, and set the exposure 2 stops towards darker. At that time the pictures came out better. I was using my Tamron 150-600 G2, but my settings were originally for my Canon 70-200 f/2.8L IS II. Would that have contributed to the washout?

I apologize if this isn’t helping you to help me, but I haven’t spent much time learning what I should have, and is my main problem.
Thanks for your help.

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Oct 25, 2018 22:16:03   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
[quote=Photocraig]WOW, Cookie. I've been shooting Canon for almost 3 decades, and this thread, 'cept for Linda, has ME confused. The 7DII is very configurable and you should set it up carefully. I have found that my thumb gets confused on which back button I'm pressing and why. I advise De-coupling the shutter button focus in the tools menu and using Back Button Focus all the time. BUT with the many 7DII choices and what seems to be some limited experience on your part, I'd get help. Maybe a You Tube on how to set up your 7DII by Jared Polin, Tony Northrup or another talking head of your liking who 'splains along the way might help. Watch it with camera in hand and follow along, pausing when needed.

Without a doubt my inexperience is the problem. I'm recently retired, and will be incapacitated for awhile so I will have plenty of time to learn, and play around with my gear.

Thanks

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Oct 26, 2018 12:08:37   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
Cookie223 wrote:

When I saw the washout I changed the ISO from 100 to 1250, and set the exposure 2 stops towards darker. At that time the pictures came out better.

Again you say you set the exposure 2 stops darker. HOW????? If you are setting the exposure yourself, this is the problem! Are you using a meter of some sort, internal or external, or just guessing?

What mode are you in, shutter speed preferred, aperture preferred, manual, or auto or something else? This affects exposure.

BTW, an ISO of 1250 is unusually high for outdoors during daytime. If an ISO of 100 gave you an overexposed (washed out) photo, going up in ISO is the wrong direction! LEARN THE EXPOSURE TRIANGLE!!!! ISO is like a brightness gain control.

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Oct 26, 2018 12:11:56   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
PHRubin wrote:
Again you say you set the exposure 2 stops darker. HOW????? If you are setting the exposure yourself, this is the problem! Are you using a meter of some sort, internal or external, or just guessing?

What mode are you in, shutter speed preferred, aperture preferred, manual, or auto or something else? This affects exposure.


His description sounds like he is somehow setting exposure compensation while in full manual mode. Or maybe he set it in a program mode, switched to manual and believes the EC followed? I am really getting lost here. Maybe if he does not want to post a picture, he could just post the EXIF data.

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Oct 26, 2018 12:39:15   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
dsmeltz wrote:
His description sounds like he is somehow setting exposure compensation while in full manual mode. Or maybe he set it in a program mode, switched to manual and believes the EC followed? I am really getting lost here. Maybe if he does not want to post a picture, he could just post the EXIF data.


His description reminds me of my match needle days back in the 70s. From his last post, he doesn't currently have the camera.

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Oct 26, 2018 13:11:26   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
dsmeltz wrote:
His description sounds like he is somehow setting exposure compensation while in full manual mode. Or maybe he set it in a program mode, switched to manual and believes the EC followed? I am really getting lost here. Maybe if he does not want to post a picture, he could just post the EXIF data.


I did set the exposure manually, and I would have posted the pictures that were washout, but I had deleted them during the game.

Folks, I can’t thank you enough for trying to help me figure out what went wrong. At this point, since I myself can not clearly explain my settings, I cannot expect you to know what I did. I’ll start reading and practicing, and save any flawed pictures.

Again thank you.

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