tfgone wrote:
I have a pair of horse blinkers for sale. Previously used by Kodak.
Is that the pair they got from Polaroid?
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moonhawk wrote:
... I'll never go back to a DSLR, but others will certainly disagre.
What type of photos do you shoot? What do you gain from the mirrorless that caused you to switch? Is there anything from the DSLR that you wish you still had? Thank you in advance.
SharpShooter wrote:
WHY do professionals want to go ML? What professionals??
How many pros do you know have gone ML?
There is one guy here that wherever he shoots, everybody is using ML but that is NOT my experience!!!
I do see the guys shooting video using steady-cams using ML 4/3!
SS
The change of the guard in cameras is tough for some (like SS) to see in their own worlds. Yes mirrorless is the future, here now. DSLR sales are down and mirrorless sales are up. Camera makers will still make DSLRs as long as some will buy them, but they know their future existence depends of becoming big players in the mirrorless market. The top Japanese camera maker Execs. said as much when interviewed at CP+ convention in Tokyo early this year.
https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/5014039475/cp-2018-interviews-the-reign-of-the-dslr-is-almost-over DSLRs wont die, but they wont dominate the market anymore. Folks like Canon and Nikon will still want to have their foot in both markets for as long as there is a DSLR market. But others like Fuji, Panasonic,Sony will continue to grab overall market share with mirrorless only offerings from compact, micro 4/3rds, APS-C, Fullframe and medium format.
In spite of what SS can see, or not see, many pros have switched and more are switching every day to mirrorless for its distinct advantages. That will continue to grow. i was a longtime SLR and DSLR user of pro Nikon and Canon gear for 40 years, and switched to mirrorless in January 2017 and have never looked back ,and would never go back again to any DSLR after using the best of the mirrorless gear. Here are just a few of the pros who have switched, but check out youtube and you can see many more pros talking about why they have switched to mirrorless systems made by Fuji, Panasonic, Leica, Hassleblad, Zeiss ,Sony and others.
http://www.australianphotography.com/news/the-mirrorless-revolution-four-pros-on-why-they-switchedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtOIz_LT9SM&t=34s https://petapixel.com/2018/01/23/photographer-david-burnett-switches-sony-40-years-shooting-canon/ https://petapixel.com/2017/05/09/shooting-kentucky-derby-20fps-sony-a9/ https://alphauniverse.com/stories/sony-a9-s-features-unmatched-at-u-s--open/ https://alphauniverse.com/stories/sports-pro-s-gear-for-the-winter-games-in-south-korea/ https://alphasports.pro/ https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/features/why-i-switched-canon-sony-colby-brown https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/features/why-i-switched-nikon-sony-matt-kloskowski https://alphauniverse.com/artisans/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMP4vJr6cGkhttp://sonyaddict.com/2018/03/31/luke-massey-swapped-the-canon-eos-1d-x-mark-ii-for-the-sony-a9/ Swapping a Canon EOS 1D X Mark II for a Sony A9 - We speak to wildlife photographer Luke Massey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1IyIE2gAL4&t=169sMany Pros shooting Sony mirrorless at 2018 US Open Tennis Championships. Here is just one of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_Tlej_oatY&feature=shareShooting the Sony A9 & the FE400mm f/2.8GM at the US Open - 2018
olemikey
Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
Its the end of the world as we know it, but I feel fine.. . . …………..
olemikey wrote:
I have not yet looked through an EVF that I like as much as my OVF models (and I do have some EVF cameras). I do think it nice that we have so many options, you just have to pick the right one for you.
Then you need to look through the EVF of the Hasselblad X1d-50C. It is as clear and sharp as and DSLR viewfinder I have ever used (been doing this since the days of the Nikkormat FTN btw).
It reminds me of my former profession - computer programming. When they started coming out with simplified computer languages that the average consumer could use, they predicted that professional computer programmers would soon be a thing of the past. That was in the 1970's. After over forty years as a computer programmer, I retired, and at that point, programmers were in more demand than at any time in history.
olemikey
Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
BobHartung wrote:
Then you need to look through the EVF of the Hasselblad X1d-50C. It is as clear and sharp as and DSLR viewfinder I have ever used (been doing this since the days of the Nikkormat FTN btw).
I appreciate that Hasselblad probably has the best whiz-bang viewfinders on the planet, but not at any price range that makes sense for a hobby photographer like myself (I gave up photography as a business in the early 90's) it was easier to make great money and benefits with other talents I posses. I have been a photographer most of my life, started shooting in the 1963 time frame, not a newbie in any sense of the word. If I have to spend thousands to have a viewfinder that is a little better than the one in my old D90 - ain't interested, wouldn't make any sense.
I also have a rather large collection of Nikon, Sony, Fuji and Canon, and shelves full of great old glass. Have not bought a new camera or lens in decades (all used, once in a while a "refurb"). I appreciate modern electronics, maybe more so than others, but I keep it all in perspective (retired, shoot for fun and enjoyment). I would love to replace my old jeep with an Alfa Romeo Stelvio, but there is no practical reason to do so (other than to show off).
YMMV
Cheers,
mike
markwilliam1 wrote:
Thank You! By the responses to my thread about this topic, still seems to generate interest. I agree name calling is very childish!
Yes the topic is still of Interest. However most of the people who posted in this thread have said more or less the same things in multiple other threads. That was my point from the beginning. I'm sorry if you felt insulted by my trying to give you a reality check on this subject.
joer wrote:
Sony's A9 and Fujifilm's X-T3 have faster frame rates than any DSLR...20fps and 30fps respectively.
How many of us really need that speed. I would guess, almost none. Just as with Mega Pixel count, the manufacturers want us chasing technology. Technology that is useless to most photographers.
Kiron Kid wrote:
How many of us really need that speed. I would guess, almost none. Just as with Mega Pixel count, the manufacturers want us chasing technology. Technology that is useless to most photographers.
As a longtime pro ,I embrace the new technology and better image quality of the best mirrorless. It all helps me create my art, better, faster, with more creative options, and with better quality results. Cheers
rangel28 wrote:
There are many non professionals, like myself, who will probably continue to use DSLRs for years to come. I can understand why a professional would want to go mirrorless, but non professional consumers making the jump from cell phones to something better are not going to want to fork over more than $2,000 or $3,000 for a mirrorless camera. Until prices drop significantly, companies like Nikon and Canon will continue to make entry level (and affordable) DSLRs to get people hooked into their ecosystems. So my guess is we will continue to see DSLRs, especially lower priced ones, for a number of years.
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The prices for mirrorless are going to be lower than for an equivalent DSLR because precision mechanics are more difficult and costly to manufacture than are electonics. The equivalent lenses are also going to be less expensive to build because of the shorter focal plane to rear element distance allowing smaller elements. When people are willing to spent over one K for a phone, I think the mirrorless will overtake the DSLR not only in size and weight decrease but in price competition as well. And I do not think it will need 10 years. at least in manufacture. I do not think you are going to see any more than one new high end DSLR model from CANIKON after these new high end mirrorless cameras become established. It makes no sense, because the optical/mechanical workaround is so much more difficult than the electronic solution.
olemikey wrote:
I appreciate that Hasselblad probably has the best whiz-bang viewfinders on the planet, but not at any price range that makes sense for a hobby photographer like myself (I gave up photography as a business in the early 90's) it was easier to make great money and benefits with other talents I posses. I have been a photographer most of my life, started shooting in the 1963 time frame, not a newbie in any sense of the word. If I have to spend thousands to have a viewfinder that is a little better than the one in my old D90 - ain't interested, wouldn't make any sense.
I also have a rather large collection of Nikon, Sony, Fuji and Canon, and shelves full of great old glass. Have not bought a new camera or lens in decades (all used, once in a while a "refurb"). I appreciate modern electronics, maybe more so than others, but I keep it all in perspective (retired, shoot for fun and enjoyment). I would love to replace my old jeep with an Alfa Romeo Stelvio, but there is no practical reason to do so (other than to show off).
YMMV
Cheers,
mike
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I did not suggest that you go spend money. I simply meant to convey that the EVFs are improving rapidly and soon the best EVFs will be available on all EVF equipped cameras.
CatMarley wrote:
The prices for mirrorless are going to be lower than for an equivalent DSLR because precision mechanics are more difficult and costly to manufacture than are electonics. The equivalent lenses are also going to be less expensive to build because of the shorter focal plane to rear element distance allowing smaller elements. When people are willing to spent over one K for a phone, I think the mirrorless will overtake the DSLR not only in size and weight decrease but in price competition as well. And I do not think it will need 10 years. at least in manufacture. I do not think you are going to see any more than one new high end DSLR model from CANIKON after these new high end mirrorless cameras become established. It makes no sense, because the optical/mechanical workaround is so much more difficult than the electronic solution.
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I'm not sure about the smaller elements. I thought the mount was enlarged to make use of larger rear elements. One benefit was reported to be better edge to edge sharpness.
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