Francyne Loc: Bromont, Qc

Hi:

I use On1 to edit my photos. Some are raw, others are jpg and some photos are from an iPhone 8. As I upload them to
Google Photo, do I have to export all of them or just the raw photos?

Thank you

f8lee Loc: New Mexico

Understand that the raw files are not in fact images - they are the data from the chip in the camera that must be processed to even show any kind of image at all.

So you would not send those to Google Photos; you send the images (as JPEGs or whatever) there for viewing, sharing, organizing whatever.

Francyne Loc: Bromont, Qc

Thanks for replying. I know I have to export my raw photos which converts them to jpg. I'm wondering if I have to export jpg photos so that they will upload to Google photos with all the edits!

f8lee Loc: New Mexico

Well, the JPEG images contain the edits - so I am unsure as to what you mean when you say you know you have to export the photos as JPEGs and yet wonder if you need to do that to upload to Google...

Francyne Loc: Bromont, Qc

Hi: since we don't save our edits in On1, I wanted to know if the edited photo would be transferred to Google Photo. I'll do a test.

Thank you

Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara

Google Photos will only store jpegs unless you pay for cloud storage (not a good deal in my mind). It won't store your camera raw images or even photoshop or tiff for free so your only choices are jpegs. I am an On1 Raw user and I never convert images to jpeg unless I am exporting them to screen view or print. It kind of defeats the purpose of non-destructive editing.

f8lee Loc: New Mexico

Huh, I guess I'm confused as to what you think is happening with the editing.

First, a raw file is not an image until it is demosaic'd (as it's called) by software like On1 or LR or whatever. You can make all the changes you like; those edits are saved as commands in a sidecar file associated with the raw file - this is why it is called non-destructive - the raw file is not altered.

However, once you decide to do anything with that image - print it, export it, email it whatever, that's when the export function in the On1 comes into play. At that point, once you define the parameters of the output (size, quality of JPEG etc.) it will generate an actual image file to be uploaded or emailed or printed or whatever. Of course, the beauty of non-destructive editing is that you could return to the original raw file later and decide to make an entirely different set of edits, and then export that version as well. But no matter what, if you want to share the images they have to be created from the raw file plus the associated edit commands. So, other than the jpeg-based viewable image you see when you select a raw file to work on, every time to output from On1 the resulting jpeg is a "destroyed" version of the raw file. And naturally there is no reason to keep those jpegs since you can always recreate them from the original raw files anyway.

Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara

the issue is the free version of google photos will only store jpegs. My images are raw (.cr2) with the .on1 sidecars. They will not load up to google photos

f8lee Loc: New Mexico

I guess my confusion stemmed from your comment "I am an On1 Raw user and I never convert images to jpeg unless I am exporting them to screen view or print. It kind of defeats the purpose of non-destructive editing." - since the only time the raw file is "converted" in any way is when you do export it.

Francyne Loc: Bromont, Qc

Oh brother, this is complicated! Qestion is: if I want to send my edited jpg images in On1, can I send them directly to Google Phone or do I have to export them first in On1?