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Oct 6, 2018 09:32:26   #
brooklyn-camera I Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
If unable to get a return, how about a store credit? That would work for me.... give it a try.

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Oct 6, 2018 10:04:38   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
Laszlo wrote:
Hi everyone, I could use a fresh perspective on my situation. I just bought the Nikon p1000 bridge camera. I was blinded by the 24-3000 telephoto lens. I own other way better Canon lenses but somehow I fell for this super long lens. A few days into owning it I'm very unhappy with my choice & would like a do over. Unless I use a tripod (which I hate) there is noticeable camera shake as you can imagine. I'm trying to decide if I should be patient and learn to like it or cut my losses and take the hit. The thing costs $1000 but I'll take $900 at this point. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
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You've only had it a few days. Return it.

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Oct 6, 2018 10:10:38   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Was there an expectation that you could handhold at super telephoto settings without shake? If so, that's awfully unrealistic.

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Oct 6, 2018 10:45:32   #
granbob Loc: SW Wisc; E Iowa; W Illinois
 
As you are unhappy with the camera, it would seem like a good move to return it if you can get your money back. If you are going to take a hit by returning it, why not give it another chance by taking the advise offered and see if you can get satisfactory pictures with the camera. If not, then return it and take whatever hit that may involve.

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Oct 6, 2018 10:51:36   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
User ID wrote:
(if my math is correct)

But, it is not. Your arithmetic may be correct, but
your formula is off by a whole order of magnitude.
You keep squaring everything. But the issue here
is magnification, which is linear. The screen image
per your example is only about 40X ... not 4000X.


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Hello User ID, I'm not a optical mathematics whiz (or any kind of math whiz), and never claimed to be...and may have presented my view incorrectly (and your iteration doesn't hurt my feelings either), and love to learn so maybe I can present it in a better way next time. Had originally started thinking about the subject when trying to figure out just how sharp should a pic be when viewed at a certain size, versus how small it is on the camera sensor (and stuff always appears sharp on a 3" camera LCD, unless it simply isn't!!!

The P-1000 sensor size is listed as 6.17mm x 4.55mm and they called it 28.0735 mm sqd. I was happy with 28.0735mm.

I'm not addressing the magnification of the camera lens at all, just the "re-sizing" that occurs when you put the image from that little sensor on a bigger screen or print, even if the camera lens has already magnified the image to some degree.

How I got my number; My bottom line is that the sensor view is a tiny little rectangle, and it takes approx. 22.98 of those to get to a square inch. View the pic at 10" x 18" and you have the equivalent of 4,136.6 little rectangles.

If I'm wrong, so be it, point is, that tiny little sensor view is really cranked up by the time you reach 10" X 18". That is why we all buy larger sensor cameras, I think.

I have in the past looked for a little information on how something like sensor size view should be presented/compared to viewing a screen or a print, is there a layman's description somewhere that would increase my understanding? Maybe this is fodder for another thread, or a good reason for another cup of java!!

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Oct 6, 2018 10:54:45   #
agillot
 
come on! , there is nothing wrong with that picture . there is no way you are going to hand hold at 3000mm, even on a tripod it will be difficult .

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Oct 6, 2018 11:42:32   #
Nikon1201
 
A lot of stores have a specific day return . KEH has a 14 day return. Good luck.

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Oct 6, 2018 11:44:37   #
Idaho
 
You have a lens of 125x. Interesting that the review rating on Amazon is 4 1/2 stars so most people are happy with it. Maybe the birders? Learn how to use it and learn how much of that zoom power you can actually use and get sharp pictures hand held. One tip would be to use the two second delay on the shutter if you have it.

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Oct 6, 2018 11:52:24   #
toxdoc42
 
Who did you buy it from? Perhaps you can work a deal.

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Oct 6, 2018 11:55:06   #
elent
 
Hi, Linda from Maine. Eric from California here. Liked the answer. Could you elaborate on the angle of view info. Or, maybe just refer me to a simple site? I think it might help me integrate my information a d confusion on full frame a dropped sensor issues. Being g as old as I am, simple would be better. Regardless, thanks for the informative perspective.

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Oct 6, 2018 12:11:08   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
I learned to take some time and refine my technique when I got my Canon SX-50. After considerable experimentation, I improved my techniques to produce excellent images without using a tripod. It's good that "film" is free! I probably would have given up idfI was shooting that many throw away film images. My advice is to be patient examine your technique and experiment, you might be quite pleased.....eventually.

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Oct 6, 2018 12:46:50   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Laszlo wrote:
Hi everyone, I could use a fresh perspective on my situation. I just bought the Nikon p1000 bridge camera. I was blinded by the 24-3000 telephoto lens. I own other way better Canon lenses but somehow I fell for this super long lens. A few days into owning it I'm very unhappy with my choice & would like a do over. Unless I use a tripod (which I hate) there is noticeable camera shake as you can imagine. I'm trying to decide if I should be patient and learn to like it or cut my losses and take the hit. The thing costs $1000 but I'll take $900 at this point. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
Hi everyone, I could use a fresh perspective on my... (show quote)


You should be pursuing external mechanical stabilizations - like a facial stabilizer, monopod, L bracket, ect, ect.

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Oct 6, 2018 12:47:02   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
Not knowing anything about this camera I just downloaded and looked at the manual. I see the optical zoom goes to 3000mm, and it does digital zoom which goes to 12,000mm, activated by holding the zoom control down at the tele end. This is absolutely ridiculous. Is the original poster and his wife unknowingly going right past 3000mm toward the 12,000 end?

Digital zoom on ANY camera degrades image quality, and can (and should) be disabled on any camera I have seen before this one. The digital zoom ratio on the P1000 is INSANE!! Good example of my rule that just because it is POSSIBLE to achieve a spec, does not mean it is USEFUL or RECOMMENDED.

At this kind of zoom length, how can a camera be held and aimed by a human being?

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Oct 6, 2018 12:48:34   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
alfeng wrote:
As OTHERS have said ...

YOU will probably need to USE A TRIPOD when using the longer end of the Zoom.






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Oct 6, 2018 12:54:48   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
Even on a tripod, aiming a very long focal length lens can be difficult, with stationary subjects, not to speak of catching a moving subject.
I'd want to have the camera supported by a mountain, like they do in observatories.

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