It appears you need to work on developing skills because the details you espouse are not a camera or lens issues but they are operator issues. I can work with almost any camera and almost any lens because as long as I understand the controls I can make a proper exposure and composition.The only time I would use a 24-70 at a zoo would be a petting zoo. You normally need at least 200mm f/2.8 to a max of f/5.6 to get good creature images. Shooting through glass presents its own challenges. Personally. my favorite zoo lens is a 300mm f/2.8 and I usually shoot wide open - handheld as slow as 1/60ss. I do sometimes use a monopod. a 24-70 lens is a great lens and one I use often for non-zoo shooting. Your posting sounds like you are a person of experience with the expertise to critique camera equipment for the benefit of others. It is my opinion that you don't know squat about equipment, technique or composition.
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Those are great animal portraits, you shoot with the finest equipment, but I also know damn well you could do as well with less, you are a photographer, it’s the eye, not the camera, but wow, great stuff
I regularly use a 28~300 Nikkor on my D800. I've no problem walking around with this lens. Though, I do admit I have to carry it. It won't walk around on its own.
Just throw a leash on it...and drag it behind you !! It will follow you
Had the opportunity to test a Nikon 24-70 f/2.8 non-VR on my d850. Had it to three different venues: shot the dam site on the Wisconsin River at Sauk City; went to the zoo in Madison, WI; went to the River Walk in Naperville, IL. Each had a different challenge. First off the Nikon 24-70 felt almost foreign to me; every time I wanted to change a setting or manual focus I felt I had to hunt for the adjustment rings? Was curious why the lens moves its front element the way it does? Overall initial impression, that is NOT a walk around lens for hand held shooting under less than ideal conditions; not without VR anyway. And it's NOT a zoo lens either. I got some nice shots at the dam site, then it was a decent afternoon with broken clouds to break up the monotony of the late September sky. Shooting conditions at the River Walk were not the best because of mostly overcast skies so I was limited to what I could do without a tripod and get sharp shots; I had intermittent rain. Auto focus worked best at the dam, probably because the lighting was better. At the zoo I had to do a lot of shooting through glass without a tripod. I had a comparable Tamron a while back that I returned to B & H because my old manual focus primes gave me as good if not better/sharper images with a whole lot less weight to deal with. I was expecting a whole lot more than what I have seen so far. MY OPINION!
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You submitted 6 pictures taken with the 24-70 lens. 4 and 6 were taken at a focal length of 35mm with a shutter speed of 1/50 hand held. 5 was taken at a focal length of 70mm with a shutter speed of 1/60 hand held. You're pushing it with a lens that doesn't have VR, especially on such a high resolution camera where the tiniest motion artifact could be visible at high magnification.
Having said that, I don't see anything wrong with your pictures. I really don't. If you're going to pixel peep, you might find your tried and proven 28 and 50mm manual focus lenses are better to your eyes, but I'll bet that on a computer screen or in a fairly big enlargement, you'd be hard pressed to see the difference. Next time, if there is a next time, shoot identical pictures with your fixed focus lenses and this lens on a tripod and compare them with one another. There is no other valid test in the real world.
Yes this is a heavy lens coupled with a heavy camera. Also, to complain that it doesn't have enough reach for zoo shots isn't fair. You should have known that ahead of time.
Naperville River Walk Fountain 9/30/2012. Lived in Naperville for 30 years before moving to Texas (see my other reply on the 24-70).
Well it’s not anything I would get excited about either the picture look like a snapshot it’s not and award quality, you need more practice in your shooting techniques in my opinion!
Well it"s not anything I would get excited about either the picture look like a snapshot itâÂÂs not and award quality, you need more practice in your shooting techniques in my opinion!
I second that opinion. It isn't snobbishness, there are issues of...why? What in God's name are the artistic values of random snapshots taken by several thousand dollars of equipment and it's like, Are they sharp? What does it matter?. Yeah well the equipment is way beyond the needs of the photographer that's for certain. And...a black and white snapshot is the worst of lazy artistic effort
With the exception of David Pine, the rest of you who posted pictures with that camera/lens combo should have saved your money. What you guys should have done is keep your previous cameras and instead invest in a pro to learn about the art of photography. Why in the world would anyone purchase a top of the line camera just to take snapshots?
Those are great animal portraits, you shoot with the finest equipment, but I also know damn well you could do as well with less, you are a photographer, it’s the eye, not the camera, but wow, great stuff
With the exception of David Pine, the rest of you who posted pictures with that camera/lens combo should have saved your money. What you guys should have done is keep your previous cameras and instead invest in a pro to learn about the art of photography. Why in the world would anyone purchase a top of the line camera just to take snapshots?
David Pine, beautiful work!!!
The OP was disappointed in the lens for what he considered technical reasons, showed some pictures, and never claimed that the pictures taken were art. I think we're drifting here.
The OP was disappointed in the lens for what he considered technical reasons, showed some pictures, and never claimed that the pictures taken were art. I think we're drifting here.
As a snapshot shooter myself, what I do is, look at photos from the best, if I’m interested in a particular lens. That way I know what the equipment is capable of. If I’m not getting the same sharpness for example, I put the lens on a tripod. That tells me whether it is me or the lens. Very simple really. As far as your comment about the OPs photos? First of all I didn’t single him out, I said every one who posted photos in this thread. So let’s be honest: none of us, who replied in this thread could produce photos like the examples provided by David Pine, even if our lives depended on it.
So let’s be honest: none of us, who replied in this thread could produce photos like the examples provided by David Pine, even if our lives depended on it.
My 24-70 non Vr stays on my D-800 about 90% of the time. You need yo keep the shutter speed up with these megapixel cameras. Put the lens on a 12 megapixel camera and a lot of your problems goes away. On the D-850 it needs to be held very steady. Happy Shooting.