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Sep 24, 2018 08:28:11   #
hj Loc: Florida
 
Who are you responding to and what did you try?

Stevebales wrote:
I didn't ever noticed that Photos did that. I just tried it and I am amazed at it. Thanks for the enlightenment

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Sep 24, 2018 09:16:50   #
Hsch39 Loc: Northbrook, Illinois
 
I use "Photos" 95% of the time for my processing. If I need to, I will use Affinity or I also have Lightroom, Elements and others.

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Sep 24, 2018 10:05:41   #
Kingman
 
Does Apple Photo process RAW (.dng) files? I assume Apple Photo facilitates to printing to printers such as a Epson P800?

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Sep 24, 2018 10:12:28   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Teddys1 wrote:
Hello all,

I recently started using "better" camera in DNG mode.
I don't do very much post processing, just basics.
Apple "Photos" is installed on my laptop.
It looks pretty easy to use...............before I take the plunge.....
Can anyone share their thoughts about using this software?

Thank you.


Works very well, has extensive abilities and lives well with many plug ins!
Have fun!

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Sep 24, 2018 10:57:40   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
Gene51 wrote:
You won't really know how much post processing an image needs until with higher level skills takes a crack at an image. Most of the challenge in post processing is being able to look at an image and see where the faults are, then understanding what the opportunities might be to improve the image.

As a photographer navigates from "basics" to something more, two things can and should happen in tandem. The images are taken under "riskier" conditions - lower light, more contrasty light, scenes that require local adjustment to enhance the way a viewer experiences the image, etc. The second thing is the discovery of what is possible, by looking at the work of others, scratching one's head, and asking self, "How'd they do that?" And then figuring out the answer. Sometimes it is lighting, time of day, camera settings, but good photography is usually turned into great photography in post processing, just like the old days where the darkroom and the retoucher's desk was where the magic happened.

A photo editing solution should not limit the user to just simple, global adjustments which is what Photos and other simple programs offer. A better solution is one that is "approachable" with a logical user interface, then provide the support and tools to do more, when the user reaches a level of expertise that requires better tools.

Photos is great for someone who is a casual user and not all that interested in developing higher level skills. It will help a good number of images. So the person considering different alternatives should first ask themselves - is this all they want, or is there a path here. If there is a path to something more, then better software is in order. Rather than getting stuck in a closed end organizational system and simple workflow, a better solution might be to explore something that offers growth.

It's a personal decision and there are no right and wrong answers - just different. My thoughts - as requested.
You won't really know how much post processing an ... (show quote)


I'm not new to photography, I have been doing photography for over 40 years. I have a BFA and an MFA in photography as well have been teaching photograph at the college level for over 20 years. Most people buy more than they need or use. That all started back in the 70s with the Canon AE-1 P. People left and right dumped their Kodak Instamatic for one. As it turned out, most never bought a second lens or even took it out or P mode. They would have been money ahead by just keeping their point and shoot. Not to mention all the Christmas and Birthday shots missed because they were trying to figure out the manual flash. The same is true now with post processing programs. If the program gives you what you want, why switch. The programs are like Cable TV or your Microwave oven. Do you need 250 tv Chanel's when you only watch 5. Do you need 15 cooking functions on your microwave when you only use warm, potato, and popcorn?. Apple photos is free an is easy to use. Those 2 factors is hard for some people to contend with. Yes I also use some other PP programs but less than 5% of the time. I am also of the school that if you shoot it right to begin with, you don't need to do tons of Computer manipulation. In the film days you virtually could not mess with chromes (slides). I try to maintain the same ethics now by shooting the photo correctly to start with. Also, most do not print their photos anymore. They just send them across the internet and that alone dummies them down. Apple Photos is not for everyone but like the edit programs on your cel phone, it does 90% or what most people need. Now I'm getting off of my soap box.

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Sep 24, 2018 10:59:26   #
claytonfm
 
My experience since the late 90's when digital cameras first came on the market is first off that the cameras have become so much better both hardware and software wise.
Secondly, the editing software has also improved markedly. I used to do far more "massaging" than now. I currently use Elements but open my downloaded images first off into the Camera Raw app whether its a raw or jpg. BTW the jpg image not only looks different from the raw, it often looks a lot better i.e. closer to what I perceive as a good version. In any case, the first thing I do is click on "auto", then adjust if its close. One of the best adjustment tools is the "clarity" slider, seems to provide a combination of a "sharper" and "richer" looking pic. I then will open the image back into Elements for any more sophisticated touches such as removing unwanted elements in the image, etc.

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Sep 24, 2018 13:00:07   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
I use Photos for almost all my PP now. It has improved to the point that simple fixes are easy and quick. I do not use it for complex PP for which I use Photoshop CC since I already know how to use it well and I don't want to bother learning another way to do it. Lazy is my prerogative!

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Sep 24, 2018 13:03:11   #
Stevebales Loc: Central Florida USA
 
To the post.on Photos. I have been using Photoshop for 12 years and I can do well with it. Doesn't hurt to see what programs other than Photoshop does that I already own.

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Sep 24, 2018 13:48:13   #
Old Coot
 
I can,t seem to open files taken with a Fuji x t2 in raw format in my Apple “photos” software.
Anyone have any experience with and solution for that problem ?

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Sep 24, 2018 14:28:05   #
hj Loc: Florida
 
Didn't someone say that raw capability was recently added to "Photos" software. Is there a software upgrade. I don't know.

tfgone wrote:
I can,t seem to open files taken with a Fuji x t2 in raw format in my Apple “photos” software.
Anyone have any experience with and solution for that problem ?

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Sep 24, 2018 15:25:04   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Kingman wrote:
Does Apple Photo process RAW (.dng) files? I assume Apple Photo facilitates to printing to printers such as a Epson P800?


OSX has support for RAW Files and for sure DNG files. Which is used by Apple Photos, Apples Raw processing engine is an option in Affinity Photo too. I don't know which RAW files may be unsupported, as new variants come out regularly I'm sure some will not be supported initially.

https://support.apple.com/en-ie/HT207972 This list is current as of 24th September 2018 and covers IOS11 and High Sierra.

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Sep 24, 2018 16:03:37   #
jak86094
 
There are a lot of things you can't do in Apple Photos (aka iPhoto). For example, you can't create masks. You can't work in layers. Since there are no layers, you can't set a blending mode (how 2 layers "blend" together)...but then, if you want to quickly transfer your photos to your computer, be able to crop them, do some basic color and light adjustment, create a book or slideshow, share them on a web page or by sending copies to friends and family, and have access to some pretty good training and support...use Photos and don't worry about it. Photos also sorts your photos in various ways and provides various automatic organization and search capabilities. For example, sorting by person, by event, by date, etc. If you later want to use or upgrade to another post processing application, you have several options: you can Export your photos (either the original, unedited image or the image with any post processing you've applied) as TIFF, JPEG or PNG files and then reopen them in another application or you can edit them in another application (e.g., Photoshop or Affinity Photo if you have them available) and launch that other program right from Photos. In sum...it's a useful basic storage and processing application that handles JPEG, TIFF, PNG, and RAW images and is fully integrated into the Apple operating environment. You are not stuck in Photos if later you want to take advantage of the many benefits of programs like Lightroom, Photoshop, Affinity Photo, etc. Photos keeps getting better, and if you can always do what you want within the Photos app and environment, you don't need to learn and pay for something else. Good luck.

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Sep 24, 2018 18:24:04   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Does Photos let you add watermarks?

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Sep 24, 2018 19:47:04   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
jbk224 wrote:
I believe that most people who do not have much, if any experience, with organizing and editing software; are looking for an easy and comfortable way to begin the process. Clearly, Apple Photos fits the bill for our new friend here. They may start as a casual user, and find that they may want to develop their skills beyond what is offered with their system--or not. Trying to decide now on something that offers growth is 'too much pressure' for someone who basically knows nothing about more robust workflow and needs. Just refer to the many threads our members create who are already involved with programs that offer so much more! Newbies should just go with the path that provides the least resistance, learning curve, and will offer them the ability to see the fruits of their labor quickly and be able to share with others easily. When the 'Force' (I couldn't resist--sorry) takes over; they will be able to better evaluate their needs and jump to more robust software. And then, they can start a new thread with more suggestions than they ever imagined.
I believe that most people who do not have much, i... (show quote)


So we pretty much agree.

However, I start all my "newbies" on Lightroom, with a small taste of Photoshop for those who aspire and learn quickly. You would be surprised how much people can learn - even beginners. I don't decide how much they can handle. I use a rubric-based teaching style that allows for personal goal setting based on an expectation of results. They will clearly indicate what they can handle soon enough. I am nearly always surprised at what they aspire to.

If you read my post in it's entirety, especially the part about it being a personal decision - and it depends entirely upon an individual's goals and objectives. Just sayin'

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Sep 24, 2018 20:32:42   #
jbk224 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Gene51 wrote:
So we pretty much agree.
If you read my post in it's entirety, especially the part about it being a personal decision - and it depends entirely upon an individual's goals and objectives. Just sayin'


Gene,
I would never reply without having read your post in it's entirety. While we basically agree, I definitely agree that it depends upon an individual's goals and objectives....

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