Cameras and Street thieves in Barcelona (Page 2): Disagree ompletly. NY City is still the safest big city in the world. Carried a roller case with 50 grand of nedical gear in some of...

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

FreddB wrote:

But...but...EVERYTHING European is so vastly superior to ANY thing American!
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Disagree ompletly. NY City is still the safest big city in the world. Carried a roller case with 50 grand of nedical gear in some of the worst areas in the city Morningside Hgts to Sunnyside park Never had a single unpleasant wordi

Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal

wings42 wrote:

... I do carry a can of "Halt" pepper spray that is extremely nasty stuff .
BTW, I've thought of getting a small but powerful pocket sized pistol like a little Beretta Pico,

YES! On the pepper spray. You can explain that it's really a dog deterrent.
NO! NO! NO! On the gun. *I* believe we have the right to carry, but the government doesn't. Red or Blue. Use it, and you'll spend the last of your life in too close proximity with the likes of the people you were trying to protect yourself from.
Carry a sturdy cane, along with the pepper spray.

Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas

Harry0 wrote:

YES! On the pepper spray. You can explain that it's really a dog deterrent.
NO! NO! NO! On the gun. *I* believe we have the right to carry, but the government doesn't. Red or Blue. Use it, and you'll spend the last of your life in too close proximity with the likes of the people you were trying to protect yourself from.
Carry a sturdy cane, along with the pepper spray.

Agree

Another thought is to carry a small air horn - at 115 db - it hurts and draws a lot of attention -

They can be purchased at Walmart - boat stores - marina's - online - etc... and to my knowledge, there is no legal issue with carrying this...

repleo Loc: Boston

FreddB wrote:

But...but...EVERYTHING European is so vastly superior to ANY thing American!
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AT least the OP wasn't shot!

PeterBergh

Harry0 wrote:

... NO! NO! NO! On the gun. *I* believe we have the right to carry, but the government doesn't. Red or Blue. Use it, and you'll spend the last of your life in too close proximity with the likes of the people you were trying to protect yourself from. ...

In some states, carrying concealed without a permit is a felony. I believe Illinois is one of them; New Jersey may be another.

If you are an active or a retired law-enforcement officer who is or retired in good standing and qualify as required by your department or once a year, you can get a concealed-carry permit that's good nationwide. A federal law called the Law-Enforcement Officer Safety Act was enacted about ten years ago.

If you don't qualify for LEOSA, your best bet is to get as many non-resident concealed-carry permits as you can and do not travel into states that you don't have a permit for and who don't have reciprocity arrangements with the states from where you have a permit. I suggest starting with Florida; they issue non-resident permits and have reciprocity agreement with several states. New Jersey, New York, and California are three of the states you will want to stay out of unless you're LEOSA qualified -- they are decidedly anti-gun and that attitude is, unfortunately, reflected (by order) in their law-enforcement officers.

Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx

Shellback wrote:

Agree

Another thought is to carry a small air horn - at 115 db - it hurts and draws a lot of attention -

They can be purchased at Walmart - boat stores - marina's - online - etc... and to my knowledge, there is no legal issue with carrying this...

If used, I’m sure some DA somewhere, probably California, will prosecute you for damaging the ears of your assailant, they will apply for workman’s comp, you will face a federal suit for violating the rights of the perpetrators to assault you and a civil suit by the perpetrators for causing ptsd. I live in Texas where you still have the right to defend yourself.

Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx

PeterBergh wrote:

In some states, carrying concealed without a permi... (show quote)

Lived in Illinois for most of my life. If you are carrying without a concealed carry permit and are caught with it, but not in the commission of a crime, they look at intent. If they determine there was no intent other than personal protection, they will plead it down to a misdemeanor and let you off with community service, but you will probably not get your gun back. But back to the ops post, I have traveled extensively in Europe and I warn people not to take anything expensive with them. Alway hear about stuff stolen out of hotel rooms. I go into a local phone store shortly after arriving (they are at every couple of blocks and at a lot of airports and train stations) and pick up a cheap prepaid phone so I don't have to take my iphone out of my pocket.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

wings42 wrote:

BTW, I've thought of getting a small but powerful pocket sized pistol like a little Beretta Pico, but would much prefer not to go that way if possible.

That's funny, you'll just lose that too!! How do you think the criminals get their guns!!! LoL
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tdekany Loc: Oregon

You are the funniest

SharpShooter wrote:

That's funny, you'll just lose that too!! How do you think the criminals get their guns!!! LoL
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brianmen Loc: Sydney Australia

Forget the pistol it all happens to quickly and they are gone. Their is no solution to avoid the thieves if they want to try and grab your camera. The best advice is to be Street wise and remain alert . If people approach you for help rebuff then quickly. If they persist yell at them to go away. Yell very loudly and persist with yelling until they leave you alone. Don't be embarrassed they will bolt if they are thieves. They don't want attention. Watch out for people touching you or if you sense a group moving in closely to you, start yelling at them. It has worked successfully for me for many years and scared off the potential thieves. I swear very aggressively. Good luck, stay safe

d2b2 Loc: Catonsville, Maryland, USA

brianmen wrote:

Forget the pistol it all happens to quickly and they are gone. Their is no solution to avoid the thieves if they want to try and grab your camera. The best advice is to be Street wise...

rdubreuil Loc: Dummer, NH USA

Insure your gear. No sense in getting yourself injured over things that can be replaced.

Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb

Didn't need it but used a cable in a strap for my camera about a month ago in Barcelona. Didn't need it but was worth $30.00 at B& H

John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK

FreddB wrote:

But...but...EVERYTHING European is so vastly superior to ANY thing American!
😈😈😈

Even the Thieves! A lot of Europe (inc. sadly the U.K.) has gone soft on Crime. Give the perps a seeing too - perhaps even talk to them in words they don't understand and the Social Police will happily spend more time prosecuting you than real Police will be able to spend on you.

traderjohn Loc: New York City

sb wrote:

Rick Steves' best advice: "When traveling in Europe never carry anything with you that you can't afford to have stolen". The sad reality...

I believe San Francisco is getting there also.