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Sep 19, 2018 12:50:04   #
tonyjag Loc: Bolton, Ma.
 
we are planning a trip to Australia and New Zealand and I want to back up pictures from my D5300 and and a Nikon P500 to my Android phone. During a 2011 Italy trip, i used 8GB eye-Fi cards in a D90 and P500 to do just that and it worked very well. I could take shots, then they would automatically down load to the phone while i was walking around. But those eye-fi cards seem to no longer be supported.

The D5300 has built-in wi-fi, but it seems very clunky to use as follows:
D5300 Camera:
1. Turn it on,
2. Bring up menu
3. Find wi-fi
4. Enable Wi-fi (it always comes up off)
5. Camera displays "Waiting for Connection"
Phone
6. Turn it on
7. Launch wmu
8. go to wi-fi available networks menu
9. Select Nikon_WU2_....... and connect to it
Camera
10. displays "Connected to smart device"

Whew. Now it works, but if you should foolishly shut off the camera to save battery, you have to go through most of these actions again to re-connect. And that is just for the DSLR. It is now 2018..is there a better way? Are there newer eye-fi cards that are still supported? Any advice will be much appreciated.

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Sep 19, 2018 13:09:17   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Why complicate your life? Simply purchase enough cards to cover your trip. That way you can avoid all of this falderal.
--Bob
tonyjag wrote:
we are planning a trip to Australia and New Zealand and I want to back up pictures from my D5300 and and a Nikon P500 to my Android phone. During a 2011 Italy trip, i used 8GB eye-Fi cards in a D90 and P500 to do just that and it worked very well. I could take shots, then they would automatically down load to the phone while i was walking around. But those eye-fi cards seem to no longer be supported.

The D5300 has built-in wi-fi, but it seems very clunky to use as follows:
D5300 Camera:
1. Turn it on,
2. Bring up menu
3. Find wi-fi
4. Enable Wi-fi (it always comes up off)
5. Camera displays "Waiting for Connection"
Phone
6. Turn it on
7. Launch wmu
8. go to wi-fi available networks menu
9. Select Nikon_WU2_....... and connect to it
Camera
10. displays "Connected to smart device"

Whew. Now it works, but if you should foolishly shut off the camera to save battery, you have to go through most of these actions again to re-connect. And that is just for the DSLR. It is now 2018..is there a better way? Are there newer eye-fi cards that are still supported? Any advice will be much appreciated.
we are planning a trip to Australia and New Zealan... (show quote)

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Sep 19, 2018 15:34:03   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
rmalarz wrote:
Why complicate your life? Simply purchase enough cards to cover your trip. That way you can avoid all of this falderal.
--Bob



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Sep 19, 2018 17:09:06   #
juan_uy Loc: Uruguay
 
That wouldn't be a backup strategy, as there would be a single copy of the image.

rmalarz wrote:
Why complicate your life? Simply purchase enough cards to cover your trip. That way you can avoid all of this falderal.
--Bob

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Sep 19, 2018 17:14:28   #
tonyjag Loc: Bolton, Ma.
 
Bob,
Thanks for your response. I always carry spare SD cards, but that is not the issue. I want to have back up copies of the valuable images as soon as possible in case something happens to the camera or SD card, both of which have happened in the past.

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Sep 19, 2018 17:31:16   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Tony, in that case send them to Dropbox. That would be slightly less convoluted.
--Bob
tonyjag wrote:
Bob,
Thanks for your response. I always carry spare SD cards, but that is not the issue. I want to have back up copies of the valuable images as soon as possible in case something happens to the camera or SD card, both of which have happened in the past.

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Sep 20, 2018 06:16:52   #
hawleyrw Loc: Dayton, OH
 
I do kind of the same with my Canon using WiFi but it doesn’t require me to find wifi. Once I turn it on on the Camera, it becomes its own hotspot, so the canon software on my Apple phone detects it where I can copy the photos off at full resolution. I’ve got my phone setup to automatically upload to google photos and Apple iCloud once I’m in range of WiFi, so I’ve already got by then multiple copies of all my shots, besides what’s on the card. Once I get home that I manually copy from either Google photos or iCloud to Google Drive (A completely separate location), so I can put everything in the order and group the way I’d like. Yet another copy of my photos.

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Sep 20, 2018 07:35:25   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
tonyjag wrote:
we are planning a trip to Australia and New Zealand and I want to back up pictures from my D5300 and and a Nikon P500 to my Android phone. During a 2011 Italy trip, i used 8GB eye-Fi cards in a D90 and P500 to do just that and it worked very well. I could take shots, then they would automatically down load to the phone while i was walking around. But those eye-fi cards seem to no longer be supported.

The D5300 has built-in wi-fi, but it seems very clunky to use as follows:
D5300 Camera:
1. Turn it on,
2. Bring up menu
3. Find wi-fi
4. Enable Wi-fi (it always comes up off)
5. Camera displays "Waiting for Connection"
Phone
6. Turn it on
7. Launch wmu
8. go to wi-fi available networks menu
9. Select Nikon_WU2_....... and connect to it
Camera
10. displays "Connected to smart device"

Whew. Now it works, but if you should foolishly shut off the camera to save battery, you have to go through most of these actions again to re-connect. And that is just for the DSLR. It is now 2018..is there a better way? Are there newer eye-fi cards that are still supported? Any advice will be much appreciated.
we are planning a trip to Australia and New Zealan... (show quote)


My trip backup strategy is a little different but it's because most of my trips are within the US and not abroad. I have my laptop and a 4tb USB3.0 external hard drive and I move my images from my cards every time I'm back to the room during my trips.. I have Lightroom CC Classic on my laptop and I do the import. If in the US or where I have decent Wi-fi or landline internet connection, I upload everything to my WD Cloud (back home). This gets all of my images away from the room. You might also invest in a second 4tb USB drive to keep in the car or other location (out of the room) in case of fire or break-in. Many people say that I am just being paranoid but I'd call it being prepared. My photography is a part of my income so I tend to consider backups as part of my insurance policy. It only takes a few minutes to do a backup and get it off site. Heck, you might keep your second external DVD in the hotel safe, or many rooms have a room safe. By the way.... when we go out to eat (while on the road), my camera bag goes in with me and sits on the floor under the table. I try to keep the strap around one foot. You might also consider attaching one of the child leashes to the bag and the other to your belt loop or something. YES! its just camera gear, but try losing it on the road and you can't easily replace it or the images that are on it. If you really want it to be safe, attach the leash or a small rope to your wife's purse.. She probably isn't going to forget her purse.

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Sep 20, 2018 08:48:12   #
bikerguy
 
We travel as light as possible. Therefore our backup system is small and light. We bring Samsung tablets for reading and wifi, if available. So, our back uses the Kingston Mobilite, which creates a wifi hotspot with the tablet. Each night we backup each card to a flash drive and to a 1 tb portable hard drive. We then backup from the hard drive to micro sd cards that can be used in the tablets as well as providing a third backup. I also, carry the flash drives with me so that the backups are in different locations.

Twice we had sd cards fail on a trip so we never travel without a backup system. Ours is small, light and easy to use and do not need any connectivity.

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Sep 20, 2018 09:37:55   #
juan_uy Loc: Uruguay
 
bikerguy wrote:
We travel as light as possible. Therefore our backup system is small and light. We bring Samsung tablets for reading and wifi, if available. So, our back uses the Kingston Mobilite, which creates a wifi hotspot with the tablet. Each night we backup each card to a flash drive and to a 1 tb portable hard drive. We then backup from the hard drive to micro sd cards that can be used in the tablets as well as providing a third backup. I also, carry the flash drives with me so that the backups are in different locations.

Twice we had sd cards fail on a trip so we never travel without a backup system. Ours is small, light and easy to use and do not need any connectivity.
We travel as light as possible. Therefore our back... (show quote)


Hi, I have some questions about your system:
- How long does it take to backup let's say a 32Gb card?
- The backup is directly from card to drive or does it first copy to the tablet?
- The copy process is done from a specific Kingston app? or any "file explorer" app?

Thanks!

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Sep 20, 2018 10:38:13   #
cdayton
 
I use a dongle that attaches to my iPad (or iPhone) and has an SD card reader. I’m sure the same is available for an Android phone

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Sep 20, 2018 11:16:00   #
bikerguy
 
Juan

A full 32GB card will take about 30 minutes or so. However, I never back up a full card. The backup goes directly from the SD card in the Mobilelite to the flash drive or hard drive connected to the USB port in the Mobilelite. There is a Moilelite app that you install and it controls the process. It works with either a phone or tablet and you can continue to use the phone/tablet for other purposes. Also, the Mobilelite can be set up as a hotspot with available wifi, I have never done this.

I just start it and go off to dinner or cocktails or whatever. I do not really care how long it takes in the evening sicne it can simply sit in our room while we do something else.

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Sep 20, 2018 12:09:20   #
juan_uy Loc: Uruguay
 
bikerguy wrote:
Juan

A full 32GB card will take about 30 minutes or so. However, I never back up a full card. The backup goes directly from the SD card in the Mobilelite to the flash drive or hard drive connected to the USB port in the Mobilelite. There is a Moilelite app that you install and it controls the process. It works with either a phone or tablet and you can continue to use the phone/tablet for other purposes. Also, the Mobilelite can be set up as a hotspot with available wifi, I have never done this.

I just start it and go off to dinner or cocktails or whatever. I do not really care how long it takes in the evening sicne it can simply sit in our room while we do something else.
Juan br br A full 32GB card will take about 30 mi... (show quote)


Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer :)
I asked about the time it takes, as I have tried similar solutions but the time taken was long enough that would require leaving it backing up during sleep time. With the issue that if there is any fault, I would learn that on the morning with no time to try again.
30 minutes is good time, I will look into this option.

Thanks again!

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Sep 21, 2018 07:57:26   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
tonyjag wrote:
we are planning a trip to Australia and New Zealand and I want to back up pictures from my D5300 and and a Nikon P500 to my Android phone. During a 2011 Italy trip, i used 8GB eye-Fi cards in a D90 and P500 to do just that and it worked very well. I could take shots, then they would automatically down load to the phone while i was walking around. But those eye-fi cards seem to no longer be supported.

The D5300 has built-in wi-fi, but it seems very clunky to use as follows:
D5300 Camera:
1. Turn it on,
2. Bring up menu
3. Find wi-fi
4. Enable Wi-fi (it always comes up off)
5. Camera displays "Waiting for Connection"
Phone
6. Turn it on
7. Launch wmu
8. go to wi-fi available networks menu
9. Select Nikon_WU2_....... and connect to it
Camera
10. displays "Connected to smart device"

Whew. Now it works, but if you should foolishly shut off the camera to save battery, you have to go through most of these actions again to re-connect. And that is just for the DSLR. It is now 2018..is there a better way? Are there newer eye-fi cards that are still supported? Any advice will be much appreciated.
we are planning a trip to Australia and New Zealan... (show quote)


It's much easier to use a RavPower File Hub (I use a WD-03) which has it's own power source. It's as easy as 1-2-3.

1. You load the simple file management app to your smartphone
2. insert your SD card into the slot and connect a storage device - I use a pair of 256gb memory sticks
3. Open the app on the phone and initiate the file transfer. Repeat with the other stick if you want redundant backup.

It really doesn't get any easier. And the 6000mah battery can charge a smart phone several times. It is also a router/bridge.

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Oct 15, 2018 20:08:21   #
tonyjag Loc: Bolton, Ma.
 
Gene51 wrote:
It's much easier to use a RavPower File Hub (I use a WD-03) which has it's own power source. It's as easy as 1-2-3.

1. You load the simple file management app to your smartphone
2. insert your SD card into the slot and connect a storage device - I use a pair of 256gb memory sticks
3. Open the app on the phone and initiate the file transfer. Repeat with the other stick if you want redundant backup.

It really doesn't get any easier. And the 6000mah battery can charge a smart phone several times. It is also a router/bridge.
It's much easier to use a RavPower File Hub (I use... (show quote)


Thanks to all who replied.

Gene51, When you do the backup a second time, does it create a whole new file or add the new pix to the original file? I am looking at the latest RavPower file hub AC750.

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