Wrangler Loc: North Texas

Maybe we should repeal the constitution and rename this country USSA. United Socialist States of America. Laws! We don't need no stinking laws. The motto of this once great country could be "Might makes right".

Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay

You my not realize it but the US has been a socialist country for the last 200 years no matter who is in charge republicans or democrats.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

Absolutely. Who builds the highways, funds the fire and police departments--and on and on.

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

Try not to confuse these old men with facts. They hear socialism and they automatically think C*******m.
They hear single payer health care and they think that means the government will run the hospital.
They hear theocracy and think that only applies to Islam and not Christianity.
It's tough teaching old dogs new tricks.

Wrangler Loc: North Texas

You are right. Young guys know everything. FNG's always know it all.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

First, you might try dealing with fact rather than frustration. Socialism is defined as a government in which the government owns the means of production. Obviously, this is not us.

We have free enterprise, private ownership of capital, etc., so you are alarmed over nothing, or at least alarmed over a false issue.

What you are complaining about is not Socialism but the government possibly supporting, say, healthcare.

We live in a democracy, and citizens may decide what services the government provides, for example healthcare, as every modern nation in the world provides for its citizens.

Our government provides roads and school, police and military, fire and flood protection, social security, student loans etc.

We may, if we wish, instruct the government to provide healthcare as Obama did; it is our right to do so.

You may disagree—you have a v**e in this as much as everyone else—but which ever way the issue is settled, We Don’t Live In A Socialistic Society.

Capitalism is an economic system based on private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit. Characteristics central to capitalism include private property, capital accumulation, wage labor, voluntary exchange, a price system, and competitive markets. In a capitalist market economy, decision-making and investment are determined by every owner of wealth, property or production ability in financial and capital markets, whereas prices and the distribution of goods and services are mainly determined by competition in goods and services markets. (Wikipedia)

In economics, a free market is an idealized system in which the prices for goods and services are determined by the open market and by consumers. In a free market the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government, by a price-setting monopoly, or by other authority. Proponents of the concept of free market contrast it with a regulated market, in which a government intervenes in supply and demand through various methods - such as tariffs - used to restrict trade and to protect the local economy. In an idealized free-market economy, prices for goods and services are set freely by the forces of supply and demand and are allowed to reach their point of equilibrium without intervention by government policy. (Wikipedia)

Socialism
noun
a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.

(in Marxist theory) a t***sitional social state between the o*******w of capitalism and the realization of c*******m.


Definition of socialism
1
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2
a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3
: a stage of society in Marxist theory t***sitional between capitalism and c*******m and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

(Two Dictionary Definitions)

Even if we were to have Socialism, we would still have laws. (I don’t understand you post denigrating ‘laws.’)

We have already adopted the Might Makes Right philosophy, as we demonstrated so successfully in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq.

EyeSawYou

You might want to communicate this to Kmgw9v and Kraken, they obviously do not know what socialism entails.

EyeSawYou

That's not what a socialist government is.

EyeSawYou

I swear you libs are dumb.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

You definition is not totally correct.

so·cial·ism
ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/Submit
noun
a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole

Wrangler Loc: North Texas

Twardlow,

You have just created a straw man argument.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

The government does not have to be involved. The NFO National Farmers Organization. Tried this back in 40's 50's 60's to try controll prices. Not enough farmers joined. Not sure if it still around.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

It amazes me how many people who support socialism have not a clue what socialism.

More accurately we have a semi f*****t economy where in many industries ... banking, insurance, tobacco, alcohol, armaments as examples ... a veneer of faux private ownship exists.

In reality production and prices are regulated by state fiat which gives the “private owners” a guaranteed profit while giving the state full control real control.

The entire concept of “too big to fail” is as anti-capitalist as one can get as what it really does is protect the existing status quo from the uppity small businesses deemed too small to succeed.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

Lol guaranteed profit. That major joke. Take y'all's kings tarrifs an his jacking with NAFTA. At the prices now farmers won't make enough to justify harvesting. CONSIDERING harvest costs. If they even have a market to sell it too. Desiel fuel hasn't gone down but has gone up. Not counting all the lubricants. A blowed hydraulic hose could add major extra cost if it drains 85 gal at $150 per 5 gal. Hyd Tank. Don't even think about buying the oil from a John Deere dealership.

Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay

And republicans are one hell of a lot dumber.