What exactly is "Pro Quality" - inspired by a recent troll post
Sep 3, 2018 15:56:09 #
I have always felt that pro quality is more about the photographer than the gear. Many examples of so called "pro quality" images exist on the internet, with a surprising number of them taken with cell phones, point and shoots and bridge cameras. If a "photographer" has to post a thread asking for opinions on which of three cameras provides the closest to "pro quality" then that photographer is beyond help.
Opinions please. . . Yes, this is a troll post, but it should get interesting soon enough. I am bored, it's hot out and I am in the mood for some comic relief.
Opinions please. . . Yes, this is a troll post, but it should get interesting soon enough. I am bored, it's hot out and I am in the mood for some comic relief.
Sep 3, 2018 16:01:53 #
I agree that the resulting image will define pro quality and not the equipment it was produced with. I have a feeling (without actually having seen the post) who it is that would propose such a question. I thought that member had moved on a while back but apparently has resurfaced.
Walt
Walt
Sep 3, 2018 16:03:56 #
Sep 3, 2018 16:12:26 #
Gene51 wrote:
I have always felt that pro quality is more about ... (show quote)
To paraphrase United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart;
I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["pro quality"], and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it.
Sep 3, 2018 16:15:09 #
Whuff wrote:
I agree that the resulting image will define pro quality and not the equipment it was produced with. I have a feeling (without actually having seen the post) who it is that would propose such a question. I thought that member had moved on a while back but apparently has resurfaced.
Walt
Walt
I suspect he ran out of meds
Sep 3, 2018 16:15:47 #
Gene51 wrote:
I have always felt that pro quality is more about the photographer than the gear.
I think there are 2 distinct topics involved. If a woodworker was looking for a table saw there are those that would be considered homeowner grade, some because of increased power and more precise adjustability would be considered professional. There would be many more sitting in the blurry in between area. In the real world those labels give no indication of the quality of work that will be produced. The finished products will range from a lopsided chair to an heirloom credenza. Nobody/few will know, or care, what brand tools were used.
I own some very nice, what people consider, professional grade photo gear. I consider my photography as middle of the road amateur.
Two different topics with different grades, for lack of a better word.
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Sep 3, 2018 16:15:52 #
Gene51 wrote:
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If a "photographer" has to post a thread asking for opinions on which of three cameras provides the closest to "pro quality" then that photographer is beyond help.
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If a "photographer" has to post a thread asking for opinions on which of three cameras provides the closest to "pro quality" then that photographer is beyond help.
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"If he has to ask, he won't understand."
Many people think that "pro lenses" will make them a better photographer, take better pictures...
Others compare them to having a Cadillac over a Civic...
Can they explain why they need a pro lens?
Sep 3, 2018 16:23:08 #
Gene51 wrote:
For me ProQuality is a continuum from The photographer and his understanding of "Composition","Light", "Exposure",etc and his/her equipment, post processing and possibly printing.I have always felt that pro quality is more about ... (show quote)
Sep 3, 2018 16:51:43 #
I take the question as asking about durability, build ruggedness, and weather sealing. Pros on a schedule and needing at times to shoot in bad conditions do, and should value those qualities. It’s always been that way, and accounted for the rise of Canon, Nikon, Leica, Rolleiflex, Linhof, Horseman, Graphic, and many others.
As an amateur, even an advanced one, I am not depending on my gear for a living, whether or not I sometimes sell my images. And if it’s windy, dusty, or monsooning, I’m most likely to give it up for the day, a choice many pros don’t have.
In my opinion, anyone buying a top of the line “pro” camera 📷 without that need is most likely mainly interested in the prestige factor. I’d like to hear from other amateurs who have other reasons why, say, a D-5 is worth the premium to them.
Andy
As an amateur, even an advanced one, I am not depending on my gear for a living, whether or not I sometimes sell my images. And if it’s windy, dusty, or monsooning, I’m most likely to give it up for the day, a choice many pros don’t have.
In my opinion, anyone buying a top of the line “pro” camera 📷 without that need is most likely mainly interested in the prestige factor. I’d like to hear from other amateurs who have other reasons why, say, a D-5 is worth the premium to them.
Andy
Sep 3, 2018 17:04:41 #
There is always an assumption that a so called 'Professional' is better than any other. Be it tools or services.Reality is that 'buyer beware' beats all.
The more YOU know, the better you know what and who to use. Expert advice is usually someone elses hindsight.
The more YOU know, the better you know what and who to use. Expert advice is usually someone elses hindsight.
Sep 3, 2018 17:07:06 #
Gene spoken like a king. Pro quality is represented by the photographers consistent delivery of excellence. I totally agree some are enamored in believing their images will improve by buying a more expensive camera. That fallacy only leads to further delusion. Admittedly a camera can be a contributing factor but ultimately it's the photographers eye that makes the image. Good topic sir.
Sep 3, 2018 17:09:11 #
For me, as a hobbyst (with an ocassional "client"), it is:
(1) A camera that gives consistent good results when shooting difficult subjects and/or difficult conditions.
(2) Reliable.
(3) Has good erganomics.
(1) A camera that gives consistent good results when shooting difficult subjects and/or difficult conditions.
(2) Reliable.
(3) Has good erganomics.
Sep 3, 2018 17:09:44 #
Sep 3, 2018 17:17:21 #
Pro quality is whatever quality it takes to satisfy a client for a particular job. It might be for publication in a high-end magazine, simple product shots for a web site, or a technical challenge like fast action in low light. A pro will know what equipment it will take to accomplish the job.
Sep 3, 2018 17:33:36 #
Gene51 wrote:
I have always felt that pro quality is more about ... (show quote)
Not knowing what post you are referring to I can only surmise its another pointless troll post from ChrisT
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