Keenan Loc: Central Coast California

Ahh haha hahaha.....AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

mpaw, you're a r**t! That was the best belly laugh I've had in a long time!

Keenan Loc: Central Coast California

Thank you Keenan for an "intelligent" recitation about the E*******l College. I said it earlier, I will say it again. Time to evolve with the realities of the times. And in 200 years, it will be time to re-access and make appropriate changes again, assuming we still have a constitutional republic.[/quote]

Keenan Loc: Central Coast California

Sorry, but you keep making up your own false interpretations of what the founding fathers wanted, and what "We, the people" wanted. No problem, I'll keep correcting your errors.


Robert: The E*******l College was the method "The People" chose to elect the President to ensure that a few large population states could not over ride or nullify the wishes/interests of the people in the rest of the states.

Wrong. The E*******l College was the method that anti-democratic elitists who did not trust "We, the people", who wrote the Constitution chose to prevent "We, the people" from directly electing the President, to ensure that a qualified person would be chosen for President and not a dangerous demagogue con man (like one malignant psychopathic narcissistic professional con man Donald Trump, for example) that the easily fooled common folk might fall prey to. Additionally, there was nothing in the writings of the founding fathers to back up your assertion that the founders were worried about "a few large population states over riding or nullifying the wishes/interests of the people in the rest of the states." You made that part up.


Robert: It isn't perfect, but it has worked so far.

In fact, not only is it increasingly problematic and arbitrary - resulting in increasingly skewed results between the winner of the popular v**e vs the winner of the e*******l v**e over time, more importantly, it no longer works as the founders intended it to work - to keep a dangerous and unqualified candidate from obtaining the office, as the E*****rs no longer exercise their independent judgement, but simply rubber stamp the choice their state's popular v**ers choose. This rubber-stamp system, which increasingly imposes an arbitrary system of skewed results onto "we, the people", accomplishes neither the buffer/filter against an unqualified/dangerous demagogue that the founders intended, nor a fair democratic result that "We, the people" want.


Robert: And of course Popular V**e would not be perfect either. At present over half the population lives in just 9 states. Those nine by v****g together could control all p**********l e******ns. The residents of the other 41 states would just be out of luck and helpless.

First of all, it is ridiculous to claim that "the residents of the other 41 states would just be out of luck and helpless." One person one v**e would mean that the residents of the other 41 states would have their v**es count exactly the same as the residents of the 9 most populated states. Either you believe in the popular v**e choosing the president, or you don't. Why even have a popular v**e if you don't believe in one-person-one-v**e?

Funny, only the Party which currently benefits from denying the will of "We, the people" in the more populated states, preventing them from having their v**es count as much as the folks in the smaller states, seems to think your scenario above would be a problem. To claim that peoples' v**es in the smaller, less densely populated states should count more than the v**es of the people in the more densely populated states is absurd and arbitrary. There is nothing inherently fair about this. Were the tables turned, and the Republicans who currently benefit from this arbitrary system, were instead the losers and it was the other party who dominated in the smaller states and whose v**es counted more, these very same Republicans currently supporting this arbitrary system would be the first to scream, "NOT FAIR!" and demand an immediate elimination of the E*******l College.

papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach

That has nothing to do with it. He won the e******n based on our law.

Keenan Loc: Central Coast California

There you go again with your ad hominems. Your posts, or those you agree with, can be as long as you so desire, but never long winded. if I point out your errors, I'm long winded.


"But the system also gave smaller states more power and kept the popular v**e in large states from overpowering the smaller states. That purpose has become the most important"

That may be YOUR purpose, but it was not the founding fathers' purpose, which was my point, which you seem to have missed.

EyeSawYou

Well, what did you expect from the resident narcissist, he loves to hear himself talk and drown out the voices of others with his bloviated nonsense. Yes, it appears he has increased the volume of his "sk**lful" rhetoric to compensate for lost time, he is a sad case which lacks any cure for him with the exception of logic and humility.

polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.

When calling someone a nut job shouldn't one look at both sides of the coin?

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

An i***t shows a photo of President Trump on a cell phone and the Left is all aflutter in a supposed, Gotcha, moment.

It could very well be that the President has turned the economy around, lowered the number of welfare recipients, increased America’s military readiness, levied sanctions on North Korea, Russia, Iran and China using this same phone.

Now compare this photograph to the well known photo of the last President, Obama, sitting in the Oval Office with his feet up on the hundreds of years old Resolution desk, leaning back in his chair with his hands behind his head.

The first Photo shows Trump, at least, doing something. Papers are on the desk of a busy man. The photo of Obama shows a smart ass, feckless President who was loved by the Left for basically doing just what the photo portrays, Nothing. He made no waves, agreed with just about everything proposed by other countries, while putting America’s interests last in every instance.

You on the Left will continue to make fun of every little thing President Trump and his family does, from hair, shoes, ideas and misstatements. But you cannot make fun of his accomplishments that, so far, surpass Presidents back to President Reagan. Sucks to be you.

Dennis

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drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio

Best in over 8 years versus being forced into socialized medicine. Socialism takes all your rights away and gives them to the government. Example is Cuba. A tobacco farmer give 90 % of his crop to the government and only keeps 10%.

drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio

Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa

Another long winded bloviated post full of lies and your libtard opinions. You are not a constitutionalist so shut your pie hole. Stick to your Canadian politics. Share your lib f*****t socialist opinions there. You are so full of yourself, you are nauseating.