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Aug 29, 2018 10:53:38   #
tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana
 
Linda From Maine wrote:


For those of us into playful pp, maintaining a substantial crop of pixels is part of the joy of the hobby


Absolutely! I imagine I am not the only one who has revisited a previous image, taken perhaps months or years ago, and seen new and exciting potential in the pixels. Maybe my PP skills have progressed, or maybe I'm just seeing it with fresh eyes, but I really enjoy coming upon one of these old bears and finding something new I can create with it!

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Aug 29, 2018 10:54:30   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
tommystrat wrote:
Absolutely! I imagine I am not the only one who has revisited a previous image, taken perhaps months or years ago, and seen new and exciting potential in the pixels. Maybe my PP skills have progressed, or maybe I'm just seeing it with fresh eyes, but I really enjoy coming upon one of these old bears and finding something new I can create with it!

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Aug 29, 2018 10:55:09   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
For those of us into playful pp, maintaining a substantial crop of pixels is part of the joy of the hobby

I like that, "playful pp". That's me for sure. My main purpose in "harvesting Pixels" is so I can do some "playful pp" later. Electron Collections make this infinitely easier, cheaper and safer than chemical collections.

Taking a picture lasts about 1/30th to 1/2000th of a second. Playful pp can provide hours of fun. If I ever get that perfect picture SOOC, I will have little choice but to playfully make it less than perfect, and no fun in that, right?

When I collected chemical collections of photons, all I did was send them out for someone else to fool with, then, stick them in a shoe box when I got them back, left to fade away into unpleasant off color photons.

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Aug 29, 2018 10:55:18   #
tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana
 
Are we not photographers? We are Devo... ((:-

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Aug 29, 2018 10:57:58   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
BigDaddy wrote:
I like that, "playful pp". That's me for sure...
I should probably clarify that the term is no more my original thought than harvesting pixels is; I just borrowed 'em Love your comparison to shoe boxes of faded, off-color...

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Aug 29, 2018 11:04:18   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Soul Dr. wrote:
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Sometime in the near future, film will go the way of vcrs and cassette tapes.

Actually this already happened some time in the last century.

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Aug 29, 2018 11:13:27   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
tjim wrote:
Yep! I'm an old 6th generation farmer. My ancestors used scythes and harvested a very few acres a day. Now our combine cuts 30 feet in a pass and can harvest 150 acres in a day with a/c and stereo. We are still farmers..

I think I watched you do this in a "collection of electrons" on YouTube called BigTractorPower.

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Aug 29, 2018 11:18:21   #
BlueMorel Loc: Southwest Michigan
 
I call myself a pixel painter when I'm around artists who use other media.

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Aug 29, 2018 11:22:52   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
bkyser wrote:
The sad thing is, the photographers out there that don't ever print.

Nope, the sad thing is photographers out there that don't ever post process. Printing is rarely performed by anyone. Most photographers have many thousands of pictures, only a very few of those are printed. How much wall space do you have, anyway?

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Aug 29, 2018 11:28:45   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
DWU2 wrote:
I'm afraid I don't share your definition of a photographer. To me, a photographer is someone who makes pictures.

Well, now that I'm in an argumentative, nit picky mood, a camera "makes" the picture, the photographer just "takes" the picture. I'm sure someone grumpier than I can refine it even further...

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Aug 29, 2018 11:38:21   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
sb wrote:
I create photographs. I do it differently than I did 45 years ago, but the end result is the same.

Yeahbut, it's a real PIA to scan all those prints and slides into a usable format:-)

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Aug 29, 2018 11:42:35   #
ppage Loc: Pittsburg, (San Francisco area)
 
A stenographer make recordings of conversations, a cartographer makes maps, a pornographer make sexually arousing images and video, a videograper makes videos and films. Photographers make images. It is certainly an acceptable, sensible term with a well understood meaning. Getting more granular than that to discuss us as recorders of photons is getting to academic and esoteric. I would offer that it might be better to refer to us as artists to help further the understand that instead of the brush of a painter or the clay of a sculptor, we use our preferred tool of camera to express our interpretation of the world we see and share it with the world or to our friends and family. Yeah, if I was going to settle on any other term, I would refer to myself as an artist but the world is not quite ready to adopt that term yet in spite of of most people being able to acquiesce to the idea of it.
safeman wrote:
Weird thoughts come to old people with too much time on their hands.

Should we continue to call ourselves photographers? Photographers record analog images on film, process and print the images creating photographs and if you are a professional sell these little pieces of reality as a source of income. I suggest that we have become collectors and manipulators of electrons. For many, if not most of us, the great majority of our electron collections remain just that--electrons. I sent my last roll of film in for processing and what did I get back, a link to a web site so I could retrieve my electron collections. I have begun thinking of my images stored on my computer as Electron Collections and the prints stored in my photo albums and files as pictures. Electron collections only become images when they are viewed or printed.

Before I change my mind I am going to send this and see what happens
Weird thoughts come to old people with too much ti... (show quote)

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Aug 29, 2018 11:42:45   #
TonyL Loc: Coventry, UK
 
Before digital we were collectors and manipulators of chemicals which had reacted to light!
safeman wrote:
Weird thoughts come to old people with too much time on their hands.

Should we continue to call ourselves photographers? Photographers record analog images on film, process and print the images creating photographs and if you are a professional sell these little pieces of reality as a source of income. I suggest that we have become collectors and manipulators of electrons. For many, if not most of us, the great majority of our electron collections remain just that--electrons. I sent my last roll of film in for processing and what did I get back, a link to a web site so I could retrieve my electron collections. I have begun thinking of my images stored on my computer as Electron Collections and the prints stored in my photo albums and files as pictures. Electron collections only become images when they are viewed or printed.

Before I change my mind I am going to send this and see what happens
Weird thoughts come to old people with too much ti... (show quote)

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Aug 29, 2018 11:49:30   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
DonBonn wrote:
I just consider myself to be a guy with a camera.

Yeah, me too. No one ever said "Hey, there's BidDaddy, he's a photographer". I'm only a photographer when I'm taking a picture, and people might say, "Hey, look at the dork over there, the guy with a camera." Generally, a guy that earns his primary living taking pictures is known as a "photographer" when he is not actually taking pictures. Every one else is just a "guy with a camera"

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Aug 29, 2018 11:53:58   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
olemikey wrote:
I like overseeing my ever expanding herd of pixels, letting them out in "post-processing fields forever" to play and be re-imagined.....they are much easier to herd than the old way. I also like the movie "Pixels", so yes I'm weird too!!!


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