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Aug 28, 2018 16:53:10   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
thom w wrote:
State taxes are higher than you seem to think, in States that have sidewalks and more than one street light. By the way, real highways aren't clay and gravel.

Shouldn't you have attributed this piece?



Hey, smarmy.....Chiraq has a lot of streets, sidewalks, etc.

Your Cali arrogance is palpable.....no wonder you're such a progressive toll - you have the f*****t progressive disdain for all things not coastal.

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Aug 28, 2018 18:06:44   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
amyinsparta wrote:
Please. Both parties operate at the behest of the richest 1%. Wh**ever tax cuts are made will benefit them and may or may not help the rest of us over the long haul. To make of it a war between the parties is dumb and exactly what they want to happen. When you argue amongst yourselves, it leaves them room to starve both.


Income tax cuts DO NOT benefit the vast majority of the top 1%.

The top 1% make the majority of their income from investment income.

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Aug 28, 2018 18:12:26   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
LWW wrote:
Income tax cuts DO NOT benefit the vast majority of the top 1%.

The top 1% make the majority of their income from investment income.


... and tax lawyers, loopholes, subsidies, and favorable legislation. This stuff doesn't come cheap but it's always a sound investment.

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Aug 28, 2018 21:13:31   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Texcaster wrote:
... and tax lawyers, loopholes, subsidies, and favorable legislation. This stuff doesn't come cheap but it's always a sound investment.


How do you get it without ever actually getting it?

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Aug 29, 2018 01:13:45   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
buddah17 wrote:
Personally I don't feel this is a political topic or exercise. I think its the 1% trying NOT to have to pay any more (and hopfully less) that they are use to paying..
As for the long term effect on the middle class? Only TIME will tell... But remember this. Taxes are never LOWERED, only "moved around" OR (as in this case,) "put off.." However, somewhere, and some how, the piper needs to be paid. Despite all the noise in the market, the money to cover the "changes" now in place, HAS to come from somewhere, and ANY windfall from other sources will QUICKLY be claimed by overzelous state and government agencies; and ANYTHING that "goes up" (any kind of taxes, prices at the register, etc...etc..) NEVER comes back down.
Lets' face it, we have "kicked the ball" of more taxes and individual responsibilities to our children and grandchildren.
Personally I don't feel this is a political topic ... (show quote)


Well put. When the government of the rich make changes, it benefits the rich, & they try to convince the workers it will be good for them too, with silver tongued SPIN.
The govt of the workers aim at making the workers benefit directly, with no BS attd.
The rich just can't bear to see the little bloke get a bit more. Born to rule, my arse. Dictate is their game.

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Aug 29, 2018 01:21:05   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
thom w wrote:
I've been putting off asking this, but are you a moron, or just really stupid? I really didn't want to ask that, but somebody had to. You can tell me. No one else will know.


There's one thing for certain, if it is a woman, she's one very nasty, vitriolic, b***h of a thing. Must have had an abusive upbringing.

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Aug 29, 2018 01:23:56   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Cykdelic wrote:
The Republican tax reform bill didn’t just cut or simplify taxes — it also made them fairer.

First, it set lower rates for middle-class taxpayers. But by limiting the deduction for state and local taxes to just $10,000 — far more than most people pay — the bill also made sure that the wealthy pay their fair share.

This change is part of the reason the Republican tax reform bill actually made the tax code more progressive than it had been previously, according to the Congressional Joint Committee on Taxation.

This change has another salutary effect. It prevents states and localities from exploiting other states’ federal taxpayers in order to keep taxes down for their own wealthiest residents — usually people earning well over $200,000 per year.

It is not uncommon in high-tax states, such as New Jersey, for officials to argue that state and local income-tax hikes don’t matter so much, because residents can deduct the additional payments on their federal taxes, with big savings at much higher marginal tax rates.

The new limit set on this deduction has had a very interesting effect on Democratic politicians. They are usually the first to shriek about tax cuts for the wealthy. But now that the federal tax code will no longer shield their own states’ wealthy residents from the high taxes they have imposed, these Democrat have suddenly become the preeminent champions of the nation’s wealthiest 1 percent.

New Jersey's Phil Murphy is one of the Democratic governors who scrambled to protect the rich from paying their fair share of federal taxes. His idea for c***ting Uncle Sam was a law allowing residents to write off most of their high property taxes as “charitable deductions.”

Murphy wasn’t alone in cooking up such an idea: Governors Andrew Cuomo of New York and Dan Malloy of Connecticut, both Democrats, signed laws creating similar tax-evasion schemes in their respective states. And quite a few other Democratic states, including California, considered but never enacted such dubious ideas.


It’s just as well, because last week, the IRS made clear that such schemes won’t fly. It issued a new rule to clarify that tax payments are tax payments, no matter what the states choose to call them. Although the details are complicated, the effect is to render any deduction resulting from such a scheme useless.
The Republican tax reform bill didn’t just cut or ... (show quote)


Kool but lol we got screwed. It only going last 3 years. But 1% gets keep thiers for ever.

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Aug 29, 2018 07:37:14   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Kool but lol we got screwed. It only going last 3 years. But 1% gets keep thiers for ever.


Yet another example of the demoKKKrats betraying the dumb masses.

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Aug 29, 2018 08:05:11   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Not important.....i quoted it so all would know it wasn't my original work. The point is to put it out there ( it's accurate) so others could understand it and MAYBE be curious enough to research the tax changes.

Bottom line... Despite desperate attempts by the progessive left to paint them as all 1%, the simple fact is that our tax code is even MORE PROGRESSIVE with the latest cuts.

Couple of factoids...
>The top 10% paid an exorbitant percent ofv taxes before the cuts, and pay even more now.

> Only about 6% of taxpayers will pay more taxes with the cuts, almost exclusively those making more than $250,000 or so and living in high tax states (see Tax Policy Center)

Finally, we are discussing FEDERAL taxes....i couldn't give a fcuk about state taxes.
Not important.....i quoted it so all would know it... (show quote)


Your whole article was about deductions for State taxes.

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Aug 29, 2018 08:11:59   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Hey, smarmy.....Chiraq has a lot of streets, sidewalks, etc.

Your Cali arrogance is palpable.....no wonder you're such a progressive toll - you have the f*****t progressive disdain for all things not coastal.


You're right, I shouldn't put down a whole state. My disdain is really for you. But this is the state I was referring to.

https://www.google.com/search?q=percentage+of+people+who+think+new+mexico+is+a+foreign+country&rlz=1C1CHBD_enUS811US811&oq=percentage+of+people+who+think+new+mexico+is+a+foreign+country&aqs=chrome..69i57.72277j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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Aug 29, 2018 10:25:12   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Texcaster wrote:
... and tax lawyers, loopholes, subsidies, and favorable legislation. This stuff doesn't come cheap but it's always a sound investment.


You have a zero understanding of the U.S. tax law......put the shovel down.

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Aug 29, 2018 10:25:57   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
thom w wrote:
Your whole article was about deductions for State taxes.


Only to a smarmy moron like yourself.....talk about confirmation bias!

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Aug 29, 2018 10:28:01   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 


Yet another smarmy asswipe comment from tommie! Newsflash......we all knew what you were trying to do.

As already posted, you have the f*****t progressive disdain for all things not coastal. Please, enjoy Cali’s slow, spiral into its own echo chamber of oblivion.

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Aug 29, 2018 12:13:39   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
thom w wrote:
State taxes are higher than you seem to think, in States that have sidewalks and more than one street light. By the way, real highways aren't clay and gravel.

Shouldn't you have attributed this piece?


Was that supposed to be a cute remark? Epic fail. You had nothing to contribute.

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Aug 29, 2018 12:15:12   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
thom w wrote:
I've been putting off asking this, but are you a moron, or just really stupid? I really didn't want to ask that, but somebody had to. You can tell me. No one else will know.
No Little Thommie the self proclaimed genius, you are definitely the moron. Read the crap you write. It will make you gag.

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