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thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

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Lol nonsense.

EyeSawYou

Liberal Harvard professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz on Wednesday took the wind out of the sails of those who hope Michael Cohen’s Tuesday plea deal with prosecutors will lead to President Trump’s impeachment or criminal implication.

“He is more correct than his critics are,” said Dershowitz on Wednesday’s edition of Fox News’ “Special Report With Bret Baier.” “It’s complicated. The law is clear that the president may contribute to his own campaign, so if the president had paid $280,000 to these two women, even if he had done so in order to help his campaign, that would be no problem, it would be legal. If Cohen himself made the contribution that would be unlawful because he has a limit of $5200.”

Dershowitz then described a “catch-22” prosecutors are in.

“If he believes Cohen that the president directed him to do it, then that’s not a crime at all. If he doesn’t believe Cohen, then Cohen has committed a crime and not the president — and the legal pundits have been saying if Cohen admits to a crime, that makes Trump an unindicted coconspirator — just wrong as a matter of basic criminal law. You don’t become an unindicted coconspirator if your action is lawful even though the action of the other person is unlawful.”

When asked why Cohen would plead guilty, Dershowitz said prosecutors had him “dead to rights” on tax crimes, and tacked the other charge as an “add on” to get him to talk about Trump.

“It’s not even a close question, that is so over-the-top,” Dershowitz said after Baier played a clip of Trump being accused of “high crime and misdemeanor.” “It is not a crime to contribute to your own campaign. If he had written a letter to these two women saying you’re going to hurt me in my campaign, I’m going to pay you $150,000 to help me get elected president and you have to keep it quiet, it’s hush money. No crime.”

“I challenge any of those who say it’s a crime to find me anything in the criminal law that would make it a crime for a president personally or candidate personally to pay in order to save his own e******n,” said Dershowitz. “It’s just not against the law. It may be a political sin, even if it determined the outcome of the e******n but the rule of law requires that when you say something is a crime, show me the statute.”

“Show me the statute,” he continued. “There is no statute that would make that a crime. It might be a misdemeanor for the campaign to fail to report that payment but it would be on the campaign not on the candidate. That’s not even a close question. To talk about this as a high crime and misdemeanor, it’s absurd. That’s not the kind of thing the framers had in mind.”

http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/22/dershowitz-trump-payment-not-illegal/

Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay

EyeSawYou wrote:

Liberal Harvard professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz on Wednesday took the wind out of the sails of those who hope Michael Cohen’s Tuesday plea deal with prosecutors will lead to President Trump’s impeachment or criminal implication.

“He is more correct than his critics are,” said Dershowitz on Wednesday’s edition of Fox News’ “Special Report With Bret Baier.” “It’s complicated. The law is clear that the president may contribute to his own campaign, so if the president had paid $280,000 to these two women, even if he had done so in order to help his campaign, that would be no problem, it would be legal. If Cohen himself made the contribution that would be unlawful because he has a limit of $5200.”

Dershowitz then described a “catch-22” prosecutors are in.

“If he believes Cohen that the president directed him to do it, then that’s not a crime at all. If he doesn’t believe Cohen, then Cohen has committed a crime and not the president — and the legal pundits have been saying if Cohen admits to a crime, that makes Trump an unindicted coconspirator — just wrong as a matter of basic criminal law. You don’t become an unindicted coconspirator if your action is lawful even though the action of the other person is unlawful.”

When asked why Cohen would plead guilty, Dershowitz said prosecutors had him “dead to rights” on tax crimes, and tacked the other charge as an “add on” to get him to talk about Trump.

“It’s not even a close question, that is so over-the-top,” Dershowitz said after Baier played a clip of Trump being accused of “high crime and misdemeanor.” “It is not a crime to contribute to your own campaign. If he had written a letter to these two women saying you’re going to hurt me in my campaign, I’m going to pay you $150,000 to help me get elected president and you have to keep it quiet, it’s hush money. No crime.”

“I challenge any of those who say it’s a crime to find me anything in the criminal law that would make it a crime for a president personally or candidate personally to pay in order to save his own e******n,” said Dershowitz. “It’s just not against the law. It may be a political sin, even if it determined the outcome of the e******n but the rule of law requires that when you say something is a crime, show me the statute.”

“Show me the statute,” he continued. “There is no statute that would make that a crime. It might be a misdemeanor for the campaign to fail to report that payment but it would be on the campaign not on the candidate. That’s not even a close question. To talk about this as a high crime and misdemeanor, it’s absurd. That’s not the kind of thing the framers had in mind.”

http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/22/dershowitz-trump-payment-not-illegal/

Liberal Harvard professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz... (show quote)

Hog wash, trumps impeachment is in inevitable.

forbescat

Kraken wrote:

Hog wash, trumps impeachment is in inevitable.

Tell us what crimes President Trump has committed. Don't talk about crude behavior, name calling, etc. but rather tell us what crimes he has committed with dates and details. And you can forget cutting and pasting because a simple list will do. I am so impressed with the knowledge you have but I do think you have to prove a few things before you can be taken seriously.

Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay

forbescat wrote:

Tell us what crimes President Trump has committed. Don't talk about crude behavior, name calling, etc. but rather tell us what crimes he has committed with dates and details. And you can forget cutting and pasting because a simple list will do. I am so impressed with the knowledge you have but I do think you have to prove a few things before you can be taken seriously.

NO I don't think a simple list will ever do. Your minds are so set you will never admit to the facts so I will not waste my time.

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

forbescat wrote:

Tell us what crimes President Trump has committed. Don't talk about crude behavior, name calling, etc. but rather tell us what crimes he has committed with dates and details. And you can forget cutting and pasting because a simple list will do. I am so impressed with the knowledge you have but I do think you have to prove a few things before you can be taken seriously.

Our highest office in the land has been utterly debased nationally and internationally. And you want proof. The G Men are on the case like monkey on Trump. You're just going to have to Trump Up and be B******i/Whitewater patient.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

EyeSawYou wrote:

Liberal Harvard professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz on Wednesday took the wind out of the sails of those who hope Michael Cohen’s Tuesday plea deal with prosecutors will lead to President Trump’s impeachment or criminal implication.

“He is more correct than his critics are,” said Dershowitz on Wednesday’s edition of Fox News’ “Special Report With Bret Baier.” “It’s complicated. The law is clear that the president may contribute to his own campaign, so if the president had paid $280,000 to these two women, even if he had done so in order to help his campaign, that would be no problem, it would be legal. If Cohen himself made the contribution that would be unlawful because he has a limit of $5200.”

Dershowitz then described a “catch-22” prosecutors are in.

“If he believes Cohen that the president directed him to do it, then that’s not a crime at all. If he doesn’t believe Cohen, then Cohen has committed a crime and not the president — and the legal pundits have been saying if Cohen admits to a crime, that makes Trump an unindicted coconspirator — just wrong as a matter of basic criminal law. You don’t become an unindicted coconspirator if your action is lawful even though the action of the other person is unlawful.”

When asked why Cohen would plead guilty, Dershowitz said prosecutors had him “dead to rights” on tax crimes, and tacked the other charge as an “add on” to get him to talk about Trump.

“It’s not even a close question, that is so over-the-top,” Dershowitz said after Baier played a clip of Trump being accused of “high crime and misdemeanor.” “It is not a crime to contribute to your own campaign. If he had written a letter to these two women saying you’re going to hurt me in my campaign, I’m going to pay you $150,000 to help me get elected president and you have to keep it quiet, it’s hush money. No crime.”

“I challenge any of those who say it’s a crime to find me anything in the criminal law that would make it a crime for a president personally or candidate personally to pay in order to save his own e******n,” said Dershowitz. “It’s just not against the law. It may be a political sin, even if it determined the outcome of the e******n but the rule of law requires that when you say something is a crime, show me the statute.”

“Show me the statute,” he continued. “There is no statute that would make that a crime. It might be a misdemeanor for the campaign to fail to report that payment but it would be on the campaign not on the candidate. That’s not even a close question. To talk about this as a high crime and misdemeanor, it’s absurd. That’s not the kind of thing the framers had in mind.”

http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/22/dershowitz-trump-payment-not-illegal/

Liberal Harvard professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz... (show quote)

You like to yell troll all the time, so I thought I'd try it. Besides if you read titles I warned you. Did you read all the comments? You'll love them. I'm lying, you won't like them at all, but read them anyway. They are pretty funny, if you can forget how serious the situation is.

EyeSawYou

thom w wrote:

You like to yell troll all the time, so I thought I'd try it. Besides if you read titles I warned you. Did you read all the comments? You'll love them. I'm lying, you won't like them at all, but read them anyway. They are pretty funny, if you can forget how serious the situation is.

Yell troll?? wth is that? lol

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

EyeSawYou wrote:

Liberal Harvard professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz on Wednesday took the wind out of the sails of those who hope Michael Cohen’s Tuesday plea deal with prosecutors will lead to President Trump’s impeachment or criminal implication.

“He is more correct than his critics are,” said Dershowitz on Wednesday’s edition of Fox News’ “Special Report With Bret Baier.” “It’s complicated. The law is clear that the president may contribute to his own campaign, so if the president had paid $280,000 to these two women, even if he had done so in order to help his campaign, that would be no problem, it would be legal. If Cohen himself made the contribution that would be unlawful because he has a limit of $5200.”

Dershowitz then described a “catch-22” prosecutors are in.

“If he believes Cohen that the president directed him to do it, then that’s not a crime at all. If he doesn’t believe Cohen, then Cohen has committed a crime and not the president — and the legal pundits have been saying if Cohen admits to a crime, that makes Trump an unindicted coconspirator — just wrong as a matter of basic criminal law. You don’t become an unindicted coconspirator if your action is lawful even though the action of the other person is unlawful.”

When asked why Cohen would plead guilty, Dershowitz said prosecutors had him “dead to rights” on tax crimes, and tacked the other charge as an “add on” to get him to talk about Trump.

“It’s not even a close question, that is so over-the-top,” Dershowitz said after Baier played a clip of Trump being accused of “high crime and misdemeanor.” “It is not a crime to contribute to your own campaign. If he had written a letter to these two women saying you’re going to hurt me in my campaign, I’m going to pay you $150,000 to help me get elected president and you have to keep it quiet, it’s hush money. No crime.”

“I challenge any of those who say it’s a crime to find me anything in the criminal law that would make it a crime for a president personally or candidate personally to pay in order to save his own e******n,” said Dershowitz. “It’s just not against the law. It may be a political sin, even if it determined the outcome of the e******n but the rule of law requires that when you say something is a crime, show me the statute.”

“Show me the statute,” he continued. “There is no statute that would make that a crime. It might be a misdemeanor for the campaign to fail to report that payment but it would be on the campaign not on the candidate. That’s not even a close question. To talk about this as a high crime and misdemeanor, it’s absurd. That’s not the kind of thing the framers had in mind.”

http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/22/dershowitz-trump-payment-not-illegal/

Liberal Harvard professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz... (show quote)

Rudy and Dershowitz were both highly respected at one time, even if Dershowitz was always a little full of himself and Rudy was always an asshole. Unfortunately they both seem to have passed their "best if used by" date. I don't have the background to call Dershowitz wrong, but many, who do, have

forbescat

Texcaster wrote:

Our highest office in the land has been utterly debased nationally and internationally. And you want proof. The G Men are on the case like monkey on Trump. You're just going to have to Trump Up and be B******i/Whitewater patient.

Oh dear, I guess I'll have to stop being impressed with your knowledge. You can't make a simple list of crimes but you are able to make accusations. I guess you can only live in this "safe space" where baseless claims and vile accusations are cast willy-nilly and we're all supposed to think you are a genius. NOT...

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

forbescat wrote:

Oh dear, I guess I'll have to stop being impressed with your knowledge. You can't make a simple list of crimes but you are able to make accusations. I guess you can only live in this "safe space" where baseless claims and vile accusations are cast willy-nilly and we're all supposed to think you are a genius. NOT...

Just accept this aberration as a cautionary tale and get it right next time.

Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast

EyeSawYou wrote:

Liberal Harvard professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz on Wednesday took the wind out of the sails of those who hope Michael Cohen’s Tuesday plea deal with prosecutors will lead to President Trump’s impeachment or criminal implication.

“He is more correct than his critics are,” said Dershowitz on Wednesday’s edition of Fox News’ “Special Report With Bret Baier.” “It’s complicated. The law is clear that the president may contribute to his own campaign, so if the president had paid $280,000 to these two women, even if he had done so in order to help his campaign, that would be no problem, it would be legal. If Cohen himself made the contribution that would be unlawful because he has a limit of $5200.”

Dershowitz then described a “catch-22” prosecutors are in.

“If he believes Cohen that the president directed him to do it, then that’s not a crime at all. If he doesn’t believe Cohen, then Cohen has committed a crime and not the president — and the legal pundits have been saying if Cohen admits to a crime, that makes Trump an unindicted coconspirator — just wrong as a matter of basic criminal law. You don’t become an unindicted coconspirator if your action is lawful even though the action of the other person is unlawful.”

When asked why Cohen would plead guilty, Dershowitz said prosecutors had him “dead to rights” on tax crimes, and tacked the other charge as an “add on” to get him to talk about Trump.

“It’s not even a close question, that is so over-the-top,” Dershowitz said after Baier played a clip of Trump being accused of “high crime and misdemeanor.” “It is not a crime to contribute to your own campaign. If he had written a letter to these two women saying you’re going to hurt me in my campaign, I’m going to pay you $150,000 to help me get elected president and you have to keep it quiet, it’s hush money. No crime.”

“I challenge any of those who say it’s a crime to find me anything in the criminal law that would make it a crime for a president personally or candidate personally to pay in order to save his own e******n,” said Dershowitz. “It’s just not against the law. It may be a political sin, even if it determined the outcome of the e******n but the rule of law requires that when you say something is a crime, show me the statute.”

“Show me the statute,” he continued. “There is no statute that would make that a crime. It might be a misdemeanor for the campaign to fail to report that payment but it would be on the campaign not on the candidate. That’s not even a close question. To talk about this as a high crime and misdemeanor, it’s absurd. That’s not the kind of thing the framers had in mind.”

http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/22/dershowitz-trump-payment-not-illegal/

Liberal Harvard professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz... (show quote)

The money WASN'T trumps personal money, it came out of the trump foundation, and was private donor money. It's a proven fact that trump hadn't contributed to the trump foundation for years.

trump and his family had been self dealing out of the fund for years, so any of their own personal money had been spent long before the hush money payments!

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

Kraken wrote:

NO I don't think a simple list will ever do. Your minds are so set you will never admit to the facts so I will not waste my time.

Nobody thought you could.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

thom w wrote:

Rudy and Dershowitz were both highly respected at one time, even if Dershowitz was always a little full of himself and Rudy was always an asshole. Unfortunately they both seem to have passed their "best if used by" date. I don't have the background to call Dershowitz wrong, but many, who do, have

What an i***t, the demonic talking heads on TV are constantly making up laws and scenarios that this president can be prosecuted under. Dershowitz is still highly respected and is following both the rule of law and the federal constitution when he offers his opinions, something that demonics can't seem to tolerate as evidenced by your screed. Dershowitz is a liberal libertarian, he v**es democrat, he v**ed for Clinton, but his fidelity is to the constitution and the rule of law, not the rule of the mob to which the demonic party now ascribes to in its efforts to displace this president.

The Southern District of NY is much more of a threat to Trump than is the Mueller investigation which has done little more than waste time, money, and obstructed the executive branch.