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Aug 25, 2018 12:34:28   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Wuligal wrote:
This photo was taken at Presque Isle on Lake Erie yesterday. I didn't become aware of the birds' entangled legs until I got home and was processing the images.
I contacted the Erie DCNR and they responded within twelve hours. I do not know if they were able to save this bird and probably never will. Birds and other wild life becoming entangled in fishing line is a common problem everywhere there is a body of water. It would take so little on the part of fisher people to prevent this from happening if only they would properly dispose of their broken lines. Any suggestions how we can stop this from happening?
This photo was taken at Presque Isle on Lake Erie ... (show quote)


Sad.

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Aug 25, 2018 13:17:25   #
CaptainBobBrown
 
As a SCUBA and rebreather diver I've seen mounds of hundreds of yards of fishing line snagged on coral reefs from the Caribbean to Fiji (with the lines snagging dozens of fish and crustaceans at a time), dead (i.e. no longer attached to surface buoys) lobster traps filled with dead and decaying lobsters, starving sharks with long leaders hooked through their gills and jaws trailing out behind them in Fiji, Hawaii and New England, and ocean bottom in New England scarred by trawlers so badly that the ocean bottom looked like the surface of the moon (totally lifeless). I've been forced to conclude that humans just don't care what damage and harm they cause around them if they don't see the damage they cause.

Hence we'll continue to destroy our home through blind ignorance and stupidity. I give our species at most a century before we've literally rendered the earth uninhabitable. As a professor I know at the University of Alaska says, "When the methane clathrates go, it's game over."

NASA just published it's latest 10 year report on the state of Arctic tundra noting that permafrost is now melting at an accelerating rate and methane is escaping into the atmosphere at an accelerating rate. This is what's known as a positive feedback loop. Once started it only accelerates.

Methane is 10 times more potent a green house gas than CO2 so it looks like it's "game over" folks. Enjoy it (the earth) while you've got it cuz your grandkids won't survive it.

Meanwhile bring back coal mining and eliminate any attempts to limit air pollution. Also be a good idea to stop hindering large scale fishing cuz there won't be anyone to starve as the remaining fish stocks crash to extinction.

It really won't matter in the short run but someone will make money on it so that makes it 'green'.

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Aug 25, 2018 17:48:31   #
Wuligal Loc: Slippery Rock, Pa.
 
gerdog wrote:
I learned a long time ago to carry a lighter when fishing, even though I don't smoke. Fishing line burns easily. I also pick up after others, with the wildlife in mind. Damn plastic holding together 6-packs is just evil.

Thanks for putting me on to the "lighter" thing. I did not know fishing line burns.

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Aug 25, 2018 17:53:47   #
Wuligal Loc: Slippery Rock, Pa.
 
CaptainBobBrown wrote:
As a SCUBA and rebreather diver I've seen mounds of hundreds of yards of fishing line snagged on coral reefs from the Caribbean to Fiji (with the lines snagging dozens of fish and crustaceans at a time), dead (i.e. no longer attached to surface buoys) lobster traps filled with dead and decaying lobsters, starving sharks with long leaders hooked through their gills and jaws trailing out behind them in Fiji, Hawaii and New England, and ocean bottom in New England scarred by trawlers so badly that the ocean bottom looked like the surface of the moon (totally lifeless). I've been forced to conclude that humans just don't care what damage and harm they cause around them if they don't see the damage they cause.

Hence we'll continue to destroy our home through blind ignorance and stupidity. I give our species at most a century before we've literally rendered the earth uninhabitable. As a professor I know at the University of Alaska says, "When the methane clathrates go, it's game over."

NASA just published it's latest 10 year report on the state of Arctic tundra noting that permafrost is now melting at an accelerating rate and methane is escaping into the atmosphere at an accelerating rate. This is what's known as a positive feedback loop. Once started it only accelerates.

Methane is 10 times more potent a green house gas than CO2 so it looks like it's "game over" folks. Enjoy it (the earth) while you've got it cuz your grandkids won't survive it.

Meanwhile bring back coal mining and eliminate any attempts to limit air pollution. Also be a good idea to stop hindering large scale fishing cuz there won't be anyone to starve as the remaining fish stocks crash to extinction.

It really won't matter in the short run but someone will make money on it so that makes it 'green'.
As a SCUBA and rebreather diver I've seen mounds o... (show quote)


Simply put.....I'm glad I'm old.

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Aug 25, 2018 18:03:08   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
CaptainBobBrown wrote:
As a SCUBA and rebreather diver I've seen mounds of hundreds of yards of fishing line snagged on coral reefs from the Caribbean to Fiji (with the lines snagging dozens of fish and crustaceans at a time), dead (i.e. no longer attached to surface buoys) lobster traps filled with dead and decaying lobsters, starving sharks with long leaders hooked through their gills and jaws trailing out behind them in Fiji, Hawaii and New England, and ocean bottom in New England scarred by trawlers so badly that the ocean bottom looked like the surface of the moon (totally lifeless). I've been forced to conclude that humans just don't care what damage and harm they cause around them if they don't see the damage they cause.

Hence we'll continue to destroy our home through blind ignorance and stupidity. I give our species at most a century before we've literally rendered the earth uninhabitable. As a professor I know at the University of Alaska says, "When the methane clathrates go, it's game over."

NASA just published it's latest 10 year report on the state of Arctic tundra noting that permafrost is now melting at an accelerating rate and methane is escaping into the atmosphere at an accelerating rate. This is what's known as a positive feedback loop. Once started it only accelerates.

Methane is 10 times more potent a green house gas than CO2 so it looks like it's "game over" folks. Enjoy it (the earth) while you've got it cuz your grandkids won't survive it.

Meanwhile bring back coal mining and eliminate any attempts to limit air pollution. Also be a good idea to stop hindering large scale fishing cuz there won't be anyone to starve as the remaining fish stocks crash to extinction.

It really won't matter in the short run but someone will make money on it so that makes it 'green'.
As a SCUBA and rebreather diver I've seen mounds o... (show quote)


Scientists who predict what you're talking about also tell us what we need to do to avoid extinction. It won't happen. Our own country is taking many steps backward, even though we should be leading the way. It's all about short term greed. That's all I'm going to say.

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Aug 25, 2018 19:12:53   #
Love Wildlife
 
I am a fisherman and I see line lying around all over the lake banks no matter where I go, and I have lost many lures and I always lose them where the line is attached to the lure. What it comes down to that people don't care and are to lazy or whatever to discard any line by putting it in their pocket. I have put a lot of line in my pocket from backlashes and I don't even know it is there.

Why don't you see about posting it on one of those so called pro-fishing sites or one of the big sporting goods stores websites? Everywhere you see the trash that people who fish just laying around or just throw right in the water. I just don't understand how you can take free food from the land and leave so much trash.

That's my vent and take on it and I am a fisherman.

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Aug 25, 2018 21:40:37   #
cameranut Loc: North Carolina
 
We can't. Animals will continue to suffer and die because of people's indifference, ignorance and selfishness.
We can enact laws, but many think laws are made to be broken. Anyway, most of the time these actions are never seen and can't be proven.

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Aug 25, 2018 23:42:48   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
Wuligal wrote:
This photo was taken at Presque Isle on Lake Erie yesterday. I didn't become aware of the birds' entangled legs until I got home and was processing the images.
I contacted the Erie DCNR and they responded within twelve hours. I do not know if they were able to save this bird and probably never will. Birds and other wild life becoming entangled in fishing line is a common problem everywhere there is a body of water. It would take so little on the part of fisher people to prevent this from happening if only they would properly dispose of their broken lines. Any suggestions how we can stop this from happening?
This photo was taken at Presque Isle on Lake Erie ... (show quote)


For my 2 cents worth, someone needs to invent biodegradable fishing line. It would not help the immediate problem but would dissolve over time and not accumulate to the extent it does today. For the six-pack holder, make it out of cardboard (another biodegradable product), or if plastic must be used, make the holder in such a way that the cans can't be released without breaking open the ring. I think this would be fairly easy to design and I totally expect someone to pick up on this idea and make a fortune with it -- hey if that happens, send me a few cents for the idea!

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Aug 25, 2018 23:47:32   #
gerdog
 
A fishing mag I used to subscribe to also advocates carrying scissors in your tackle box and cutting old line into very tiny pieces before disposing of it. Even when you put it into the trash, it can come loose at the landfill. Seagulls love to hang out there.

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