Barn Owl wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iPghlbiszs by Tony Northrup
And what do you think about it?....for me it was good until I found out that it only had one Mem card..
mrpentaxk5ii wrote:
....for me it was good until I found out that it only had one Mem card..
I like the idea of two flash cards too, but that may be a bit irrational.
To put it in perspective, the camera is filled with possible single-point failure parts, yet the thing that so many of us obsess over (having two card slots) is the one thing in the camera that is *trivally* easily user-replaceable and inexpensive.
I don't insist there be two shutter buttons, nor two mounts, nor fault-tolerant 3-way voting CPUs, nor multiple LCD monitors, yet all those can break too. I worry about the one thing that is super easy to check on by doing a simple, occasional review of the images, and in the highly unlikely event that it breaks, I can simply pop in a new one.
It could be argued that the need for dual slots was more a bandwidth increasing gambit than for redundancy. With high-bandwidth, robust XQD, CFExpress, CFast, and SDExpress cards, Nikon may well have been way ahead of us all and gotten it right by dropping the dual slots.
So after thinking about it a moment, the "one slot problem" with the Z6 and Z7 is a non-issue to me. (Unless I'm stuck with something using the old, fragile, slow CF cards.
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Barn Owl wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iPghlbiszs by Tony Northrup
I thought that maybe this was Northrup's at the hands on preview in NYC yesterday, but after looking at it saw it was his studio video. He said he would have a hands on video, but I haven't found it anywhere yet.
Here is Jared Polin at the NYC hands on preview, about 9 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2kcBclF40MAnd here is DPReview hands on preview in Seattle. They actually had a Z7 for two days to themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrWv6D3v95gAnother pre-production hands on review is Gordon Laing for Camera Labs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nauzVklivIAnd one more pre-production hands on is from the UK also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T97G4KP__EAccording to Jared Polin all of the cameras at the NYC hands on preview were all pre-production models and also DPReview said the camera they had was a pre-production model as well. So, four different pre-production hands on and thoughts on the new Z6 & Z7 models.
Only one memory slot is one major problem. Only one battery is another problem particularly when battery life is so poor (400 shots?).
ewelling wrote:
Only one memory slot is one major problem. Only one battery is another problem particularly when battery life is so poor (400 shots?).
They are supposed to be developing the new MB-N10 battery grip for the Z-model mirrorless at this time. Hopefully it won't be overpriced like most Nikon grips always seem to be.
I think I could learn to live with the one card slot, but yikes !!! That's a hefty price they want for that Sony card. I'm wondering if the price might come down when other manufacturers come out with their version of the card.
On another thought â¦.. If I use my current FX lenses on the Z6 with the FTZ adapter, what's the effect? Noting that the lens ring (opening) on the Z6 is 55mm, 17% larger than on my D750 at 47MM, and that the FTZ adapter would actually step down to my current lens 47mm size..... What happens? Is it something like using a DX lens on a full frame camera? I note that Nikon states the F-mount lenses are useable â¦.. "That LIMITATIONS apply" Whazzat ???
Contrary to what some have posted, Nikon has been in the 'Mirrorless' camera business for some time. I have several cameras and among them is the Nikon 1 V2, the white model, which I have had for 3 or 4 years. It comes with a choice of two lenses and I opted for the 10-100mm. It has the APS-C sensor, so the 10-100mm lens equates to about a 47-270mm in 35mm. I've had this camera all over Europe and taken some great .jpg and videos with it. It's a pleasure to take along instead of the big old honkin' D750 with 28-300mm, which weighs about 4 pounds.
I'm just trying to size up the new Z6, possibly as a replacement for my D750, but looks like I will have to wait to get hands on at a camera store.
Gene E. Balch wrote:
I think I could learn to live with the one card slot, but yikes !!! That's a hefty price they want for that Sony card. I'm wondering if the price might come down when other manufacturers come out with their version of the card.
On another thought â¦.. If I use my current FX lenses on the Z6 with the FTZ adapter, what's the effect? Noting that the lens ring (opening) on the Z6 is 55mm, 17% larger than on my D750 at 47MM, and that the FTZ adapter would actually step down to my current lens 47mm size..... What happens? Is it something like using a DX lens on a full frame camera? I note that Nikon states the F-mount lenses are useable â¦.. "That LIMITATIONS apply" Whazzat ???
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there are many hands on reports using post production cameras. You could start by going to the "Nikon Rumors" web site and doing a quick search. As far as the lens question, your old F mount lens will all work with the exception of the older screw drive AF having to be manually focused. There is no 'effect' ala DX on full frame. What the adapter does is properly space the lens from the sensor. Many of the reviewers have used their old lenses and are happy with the results
Rich1939 wrote:
there are many hands on reports using post production cameras. You could start by going to the "Nikon Rumors" web site and doing a quick search. As far as the lens question, your old F mount lens will all work with the exception of the older screw drive AF having to be manually focused. There is no 'effect' ala DX on full frame. What the adapter does is properly space the lens from the sensor. Many of the reviewers have used their old lenses and are happy with the results
UHH member Mark Smith just posted a review using the Z7 photographing birds and wildlife. Here is the link...
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-560196-1.htmlPhotos and video look very good.
Not a big deal, but just so you know,
Gene E. Balch wrote:
... It has the APS-C sensor,
It has a 1" sensor which is smaller than an APS-C sensor. Smaller even than a 4/3rds sensor. That is, BTW, why it is called Nikon
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so the 10-100mm lens equates to about a 47-270mm in 35mm.
The 1" sensor has a 2.7 crop factor, so a 10-100mm lens has a 35mm equivalent of a 27-270mm. (The APS-C crop factor is 1.5) [I guess the 4 in 47 was a typo]
Gene E. Balch wrote:
I think I could learn to live with the one card slot, but yikes !!! That's a hefty price they want for that Sony card. I'm wondering if the price might come down when other manufacturers come out with their version of the card.
On another thought â¦.. If I use my current FX lenses on the Z6 with the FTZ adapter, what's the effect? Noting that the lens ring (opening) on the Z6 is 55mm, 17% larger than on my D750 at 47MM, and that the FTZ adapter would actually step down to my current lens 47mm size..... What happens? Is it something like using a DX lens on a full frame camera? I note that Nikon states the F-mount lenses are useable â¦.. "That LIMITATIONS apply" Whazzat ???
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By increasing the distance to the lens the projected image expands to cover the sensor.
The only limitation I see is that the Zs do not have an in-camera focusing motor. So they will not autofocus with AF lenses and earlier. It works fine with my AF-S lenses. I haven’t tried it with my AF-P lens but think that will work too.
Also note that Nikon has figured out how to make the Zs reject non-Nikon branded batteries.
aflundi wrote:
I like the idea of two flash cards too, but that may be a bit irrational.
To put it in perspective, the camera is filled with possible single-point failure parts, yet the thing that so many of us obsess over (having two card slots) is the one thing in the camera that is *trivally* easily user-replaceable and inexpensive.
I don't insist there be two shutter buttons, nor two mounts, nor fault-tolerant 3-way voting CPUs, nor multiple LCD monitors, yet all those can break too. I worry about the one thing that is super easy to check on by doing a simple, occasional review of the images, and in the highly unlikely event that it breaks, I can simply pop in a new one.
It could be argued that the need for dual slots was more a bandwidth increasing gambit than for redundancy. With high-bandwidth, robust XQD, CFExpress, CFast, and SDExpress cards, Nikon may well have been way ahead of us all and gotten it right by dropping the dual slots.
So after thinking about it a moment, the "one slot problem" with the Z6 and Z7 is a non-issue to me. (Unless I'm stuck with something using the old, fragile, slow CF cards.
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It also was good when large capacity SD cards were expensive.
Of course all xqd cards are super expensive...
I didn’t get the fuss either. I don’t recall SLRs with dual film holders.
IDguy wrote:
Also note that Nikon has figured out how to make the Zs reject non-Nikon branded batteries.
NO, it only that 3rd party remoras haven't yet figured out what they need to do work with new requirements. Nikon isn't trying to screw you. When they make changes it because their new equipment requires it. Nobody spends money on changes unless its required
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