Full Frame
Aug 20, 2018 21:20:12 #
mhdt64
Loc: Tampa, FL
As a complete beginner in the hobby and looking to buy a decent camera to take on vacation, I am not sure I understand the advantages of full frame. Do I really need a full frame camera?
Aug 20, 2018 21:23:32 #
No, there are some great cameras with APS-C sensors out there. Look at Fuji, Nikon and Canon.
Aug 20, 2018 21:25:12 #
mhdt64 wrote:
As a complete beginner in the hobby and looking to buy a decent camera to take on vacation, I am not sure I understand the advantages of full frame. Do I really need a full frame camera?
Probably not, but it depends on your budget and your desired goals. DX format (or Canon Rebel equivalent) produce plenty of IQ (Image Quality) for most of us - prints up to 16x20 size and digital images for any website.
Figure twice to 2.5 times more to go full frame, in any format. Some may sneer at your choice, but would you rather have a full kit of equipment or a smaller kit with a bit higher IQ for the premium?
YMMV, of course, but my wife and I have been very happy with our DX outfits...
Andy
Aug 20, 2018 21:26:12 #
A so called full frame camera has the sensor of 24mm x 36mm size. It's not the largest sensor available as there are cameras with larger sensor. There are many cameras with smaller sensors most notably the APS-C size and micro four third size. The larger sensor a camera has the image quality tends to be better although it's not a sure thing but it's a likely thing.
Do you need a full frame camera? I don't think you need one although you may as well get one from the start rather than buying a smaller camera and then upgrade later.
Do you need a full frame camera? I don't think you need one although you may as well get one from the start rather than buying a smaller camera and then upgrade later.
Aug 20, 2018 21:49:33 #
mhdt64 wrote:
As a complete beginner in the hobby and looking to buy a decent camera to take on vacation, I am not sure I understand the advantages of full frame. Do I really need a full frame camera?
This is my opinion.
If you have intentions of turning pro in the future, and can afford the price difference, go FF.
If you are like me, and just want to take decent pictures of travels and other odds and ends, go DX.
I have both Nikon D7200 and D500. I have printed acceptable 12x18 prints from pics cropped to
as little as 20% of the original pic.
Aug 20, 2018 21:51:08 #
mhdt64 wrote:
As a complete beginner in the hobby and looking to buy a decent camera to take on vacation, I am not sure I understand the advantages of full frame. Do I really need a full frame camera?
In another post you said you were looking for a small camera for travel and that you considered the Nikon D5100 bulky.
Given that, it sounds to me like you don't really want a full frame camera. Going to a full frame means more bulk/weight... and cost!
Aug 20, 2018 22:05:29 #
srt101fan wrote:
In another post you said you were looking for a small camera for travel and that you considered the Nikon D5100 bulky.
Given that, it sounds to me like you don't really want a full frame camera. Going to a full frame means more bulk/weight... and cost!
Given that, it sounds to me like you don't really want a full frame camera. Going to a full frame means more bulk/weight... and cost!
I think the Sony A7 isn't big though and so the Sony RX-1.
Aug 20, 2018 22:24:56 #
mhdt64 wrote:
As a complete beginner in the hobby and looking to buy a decent camera to take on vacation, I am not sure I understand the advantages of full frame. Do I really need a full frame camera?
No. Since you're needing a good vacation camera, I would suggest the Nikon D7100 or perhaps the D7200. For lenses, all you need is the Nikon 28-300mm, the new Tamron 10-24mm (wide angle), and for a low light lens, the veritable Nikon 50mm f1.8D (not G) prime lens. Since it is for vacation (and not for sports) you would never need any other camera or lens again. The first two lenses would cover everything you'd need to shoot on vacation.
If you were to go full frame, you'd be getting into much more expensive area. Believe me, I've taken vacation pictures with both, and the kit I recommended is all you need. I've taken family photos with the D7000 and 28-300 and they've turned out wonderful. I've upgraded to the D800 and 24-70mm and wondered what all the fuss was about (that is the difference between the two setups).
Aug 20, 2018 23:46:59 #
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Most likely you want an M43 mini kit.
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mhdt64 wrote:
As a complete beginner in the hobby and
looking to buy a decent camera to take on
vacation, I am not sure I understand the
advantages of full frame. Do I really need
a full frame camera?
As a complete beginner in the hobby and
looking to buy a decent camera to take on
vacation, I am not sure I understand the
advantages of full frame. Do I really need
a full frame camera?
Most likely you want an M43 mini kit.
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Aug 21, 2018 06:22:37 #
mhdt64 wrote:
As a complete beginner in the hobby and looking to buy a decent camera to take on vacation, I am not sure I understand the advantages of full frame. Do I really need a full frame camera?
You don't "need" more than a cellphone for that. But if you like to take pictures and can justify the cost of a full frame camera, why not?
The camera itself may not be that much heavier, but the lenses are much bigger, heavier and expensive, compared to smaller sensor
I shoot full frame Nikon, but last December I decided to try going "light" for a 3 week trip to Ireland, so I bought a Sony RX10M4. You can see some of the pictures I've taken with it.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157697217633732
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157698222449931
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157696606493264
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157667029395028
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157689083645890
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157694805547345
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157665487054018
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157693140571925
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157665486900208
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157690214837382
It will set you back $1700, but it just might be all the camera you need. I've already made some 24x36 prints and they look just fine. No lack of detail or sharpness.
Aug 21, 2018 06:43:26 #
The main advantage of full frame is low light performance and less noise in your pictures especially when cropping
Aug 21, 2018 06:57:52 #
mhdt64 wrote:
As a complete beginner in the hobby and looking to buy a decent camera to take on vacation, I am not sure I understand the advantages of full frame. Do I really need a full frame camera?
"Complete beginner." "Hobby". These are really the key words. The main reasons to buy a Full Frame DSLR are 1) You have been a 35mm film photog and THAT is what you are used to. 2) You have 35mm film lenses and you want to use them in the same way you did with a film camera. 3) You are thinking you might "go pro" or, at least, become a really serious amateur someday.
If none of these apply and you would rather keep your costs down and the weight/size of your gear down, then you can make a wonderful camera system that will provide years of enjoyment with "crop sensor" gear. The Nikon D500 is, for all intents and purposes, a smaller D850, which is the hot FF camera this year. You can get as involved as an "amateur" could ever want to be with out the size, weight, or cost of full frame.
Aug 21, 2018 06:59:52 #
mhdt64 wrote:
As a complete beginner in the hobby and looking to buy a decent camera to take on vacation, I am not sure I understand the advantages of full frame. Do I really need a full frame camera?
If you think you want FF, better to buy it now, rather than buying and crop and a FF later.
https://www.howtogeek.com/74932/photography-with-htg-what-is-a-full-frame-camera-do-i-need-one/
http://www.diyphotography.net/full-frame-camera-really-worth/#more-51833
http://digital-photography-school.com/is-it-time-to-go-full-frame-weight-these-pros-and-cons-before-
you-decide/
http://digital-photography-school.com/6-benefits-of-using-cameras-with-larger-sensors/
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/features/dx-vs-fx-its-not-debate-its-choice
Aug 21, 2018 07:55:30 #
I have an old crop frame Canon (T2i) and a FF (5D MK4). I prefer to travel with the crop frame. It's lighter, takes great still pictures (motion isn't the best with it). I have a decent lens with it. Just got back from two weeks in Europe, took many amazing pics. I'll continue to travel with the crop frame until it dies (I've had it almost 10 years now, lots of snaps taken) and then I'll probably go to a mirrorless for traveling.
Aug 21, 2018 07:57:30 #
ggab
Loc: ?
mhdt64 wrote:
As a complete beginner in the hobby and looking to buy a decent camera to take on vacation, I am not sure I understand the advantages of full frame. Do I really need a full frame camera?
IMHO, for what it's worth, get a decent crop sensor body and some walking around lenses for your vacation. It will save you money, give you great shots, give you a chance to learn photography with out breaking the bank and really grow into your hobby.
Let's face it, you did not learn to drive in a Maserati. Right now, you are learning to drive.
I am a Canon guy, I started with a Rebel T3i. A modern version might be a Canon T5i, 80d, 77d or 70d. Check out the refurbs on the canon store.
For example:
https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/eos-80d-ef-s-18-135mm-f-3-5-5-6-is-usm-kit-refurbished
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