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Aug 16, 2018 13:37:12   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
KGOldWolf wrote:
I doubt it based on your very poor, near incomprehensible English in your prior posts. I think this response was written be someone else who has a better command of English.

You have a problem with that trollS?


I tried to ask him about his speech patterns. He seemed rather offended so I backed off. Seemed like it really wasn't any of my business. When I agree with him I agree with him, and when I don't I don't. I can't see getting hung op on his difficulties with expressing himself in proper English at times. I don't lecture dirt and I don't see any reason to lecture Quinn. If he says something I don't understand, and I care, I ask about it. I don't mean to suggest what others should do.

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Aug 16, 2018 13:40:41   #
KGOldWolf
 
thom w wrote:
I tried to ask him about his speech patterns. He seemed rather offended so I backed off. Seemed like it really wasn't any of my business. When I agree with him I agree with him, and when I don't I don't. I can't see getting hung op on his difficulties with expressing himself in proper English at times. I don't lecture dirt and I don't see any reason to lecture Quinn. If he says something I don't understand, and I care, I ask about it. I don't mean to suggest what others should do.


I get that; please see my most recent post in response to Blurry’s recommendation.

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Aug 16, 2018 13:59:15   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Where was your concern when walmart moved into cities and drove local businesses out of business?


In a city of any size they have competition and you don't find that many tiny, fragile retailers. Originally they avoided population hubs and built, in areas where existing retailers couldn't compete. They are a predator, but in places where anyone really wants to live they don't seem like a danger to me. They have changed the face of country life in a lot of places (from reading, not from personal experience) and that is a shame. The whole country seems to have moved from more, smaller retailers, to fewer, larger ones. I find that sad, but (I'm not making a value judgement here you will feel how you, do and I will feel how I do, I'm not saying this good,or bad) I think it's just how things evolve under capitalism. No, I'm not offering an alternative.

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Aug 16, 2018 14:12:03   #
Quinn 4
 
I did not like it when Walmart destroy local businesses. I still don't like it. I was using Walmart to explain how Trump's tariffs are damage America businesses and is drive up the price for everything

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Aug 16, 2018 14:31:49   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Quinn 4 wrote:
I did not like it when Walmart destroy local businesses. I still don't like it. I was using Walmart to explain how Trump's tariffs are damage America businesses and is drive up the price for everything


I think it's a good example, especially because a lot of his supporters shop there.

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Aug 16, 2018 15:05:10   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
thom w wrote:
In a city of any size they have competition and you don't find that many tiny, fragile retailers. Originally they avoided population hubs and built, in areas where existing retailers couldn't compete. They are a predator, but in places where anyone really wants to live they don't seem like a danger to me. They have changed the face of country life in a lot of places (from reading, not from personal experience) and that is a shame. The whole country seems to have moved from more, smaller retailers, to fewer, larger ones. I find that sad, but (I'm not making a value judgement here you will feel how you, do and I will feel how I do, I'm not saying this good,or bad) I think it's just how things evolve under capitalism. No, I'm not offering an alternative.
In a city of any size they have competition and yo... (show quote)


Perhaps check out towns that have not allowed walmart in and there are many.

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Aug 16, 2018 18:38:48   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Where was your concern when walmart moved into cities and drove local businesses out of business?


Yea, how about that all you Trump h**ers. Where was your outrage when Wal-Mart came in and forced three small family business in my town out of business?

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Aug 16, 2018 18:42:43   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Perhaps check out towns that have not allowed walmart in and there are many.


I'm not sure what we are arguing about. I thought we agreed they are predatory. I don't like it, but isn't that part of capitalism? With no insult intended, I thought you believed in a free market. I don't get to decide what you believe in and what you don't, but if you would take a minute to explain, I'd appreciate it.

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Aug 16, 2018 19:50:12   #
Quinn 4
 
thorn w: Originally I was writing about Trump's tariffs and how Walmart was put between a rock and hard place. Pass on the cost of the tariffs to customs or eat the cost of the tariffs. I got my information from a newspaper's story in which Walmart was use as example of what is going on with Trump's tariffs. This whole thing about what Walmart did to small town America. Yes, it is a very important to talk about, but it is being use here to get people always from thinking and write about what damage Trump's tariffs is doing to America.

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Aug 16, 2018 20:43:57   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
You are an illiterate r****d.


And you are an ignorant bigot. Treating a person of maybe lesser education than you, as a lesser human being.
You criticise the person for their disposition, not what his message.
Rumour has it, Walmart is coming to Australia. You can understand why, if true. Maybe trying to get away from arseholes like you.
There are many like you, the dregs of society. This guy probably has more intelligence under his fingernails than you have in your brainless head.
Play the ball not the man. I***t.

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Aug 16, 2018 22:40:00   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Quinn 4 wrote:
thorn w: Originally I was writing about Trump's tariffs and how Walmart was put between a rock and hard place. Pass on the cost of the tariffs to customs or eat the cost of the tariffs. I got my information from a newspaper's story in which Walmart was use as example of what is going on with Trump's tariffs. This whole thing about what Walmart did to small town America. Yes, it is a very important to talk about, but it is being use here to get people always from thinking and write about what damage Trump's tariffs is doing to America.
thorn w: Originally I was writing about Trump's ta... (show quote)


Quinn, so far the Trump tariffs are not hurting so much but there is potentiality for the damage that you are describing. What I am not sure that you understand is why Trump is doing this. Since WWII our trade deals with Europe have been a bit lopsided, after the war European economies needed to be rebuilt because they have been devastated by the war, the US made generous trade agreements that became the foundation for the trade agreements that are in place today. As the European economies advanced our trade agreements were never adjusted to insure that balance was established, those agreements have always favored Europe which probably went unnoticed because our economy was so strong, but over the last few decades we have moved much of our production capacities overseas, to China and other markets such as countries like Mexico, S Korea, Twian, Thailand, even Japan and Canada. When we began trade with China they were considered an under developed economy and our agreements again made concessions to China and probably through pressure by large corporations the agreements made with China were grossly in their favor, our large international companies probably didn't care so much because they would be producing their goods there and sending them back here or selling them into the Chinese market which eventually will be much larger than the US market for the same goods. Because of the classification of China as a developing market even the WTO gives China special considerations that often work to our disavantage.

What Trump is trying to do is to bring manufacturing back to the United States, he does not believe that we can simply become a consumer nation, having an economy heavily based on selling products made in other countries, this is a bit over simplied but we are running trade deficits that are approaching a trillion dollars each year, that money is building the economies of other countries while having the opposite effect on ours. We are losing our production capacities at the same time because we are relying on others to produce the goods we consume so even if we wanted to compete in those markets we have lost the trained and developed workforces to do so, a major concern for our country right now. Lastly a portion of the deficits will come back to us either as federal debt purchases of our treasuries as our treasuries are still considered to be good investments, or, they will come back to us assett purchases where we are selling American assets to foreign concerns. No matter how you count it up our trade deficits represent an export of American wealth and jobs and Trump is fighting to stop it

Tariffs are a lousy way to protect a country's industry and trade and long term they are not Trumps goal, he is trying to establish free trade between the US and her trading partners, you are correct in everything you say about Trump hurting the American consumer. Trump's goal is that these tariffs be temporary, he is attempting to limit access to the American market to pressure our trading partners to balance the agreements between our nations. If successful it will be good for the American workers and consumers both, but in the mean time it is going to be a rocky road, you are right, consumers will be hurt, producers will also be hurt, most visibly we have seen concern that soy farmers will be hurt, but there are many other unseen producers in many industries that will be hurt by these tariffs, but the same is happening with our trading partners, in fact the tariffs are hurting them more than they are hurting us, our economy is so much larger than any other economy in the world that access to our market is extremely important for our partners, secondly we are net importers so our partners will face tariffs on more of their products than we will on those we export.


In the end what Trump is trying to do for example is if China only pays an average of 2 1/2 % on goods coming into our markets then he is asking that we pay the same on our products moving into their markets, when he achieves this his tariffs will go away and hopefully our economy will see great growth.

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Aug 16, 2018 22:48:53   #
EyeSawYou
 
Quinn 4 wrote:
I did not like it when Walmart destroy local businesses. I still don't like it. I was using Walmart to explain how Trump's tariffs are damage America businesses and is drive up the price for everything


Wal-Mart destroys local businesses?? What a crock of BS lol, please name some businesses that Wal-Mart destroyed.

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Aug 16, 2018 22:50:35   #
EyeSawYou
 
Bunko.T wrote:
And you are an ignorant bigot. Treating a person of maybe lesser education than you, as a lesser human being.
You criticise the person for their disposition, not what his message.
Rumour has it, Walmart is coming to Australia. You can understand why, if true. Maybe trying to get away from arseholes like you.
There are many like you, the dregs of society. This guy probably has more intelligence under his fingernails than you have in your brainless head.
Play the ball not the man. I***t.
And you are an ignorant bigot. Treating a person o... (show quote)


Nawww.. Wal-Mart is making attempts to get away from perverted p*******es like you moron.

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Aug 16, 2018 22:56:18   #
EyeSawYou
 
[quote=Bunko.T]And you are an ignorant bigot. Treating a person of maybe lesser education than you, as a lesser human being.
You criticise the person for their disposition, not what his message.

Lol you fnk hypocrit dumbazz, here is what you said to another member recently, fnk hypocrite.


(The Attic)
Democrat outrage explained
LWW wrote:
You should be outraged that public education left you so ill equipped to deal with reality widdle Fwankie.


Bunko said: It's obvious that if you had private education, it was a waste of money. In fact you write & think like there was no education. Childish crap.

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Aug 17, 2018 01:41:45   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Quinn 4 wrote:
thorn w: Originally I was writing about Trump's tariffs and how Walmart was put between a rock and hard place. Pass on the cost of the tariffs to customs or eat the cost of the tariffs. I got my information from a newspaper's story in which Walmart was use as example of what is going on with Trump's tariffs. This whole thing about what Walmart did to small town America. Yes, it is a very important to talk about, but it is being use here to get people always from thinking and write about what damage Trump's tariffs is doing to America.
thorn w: Originally I was writing about Trump's ta... (show quote)


You could be right. I have a tendency to believe people are sincere and honest until they prove to me that that isn't true. Probably because that's the world I want to be living in.I try to be skeptical, but I try not to be cynical.

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