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Aug 11, 2018 08:27:15   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
This is why God created the Image Rotation and Crop tools in post.

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Aug 11, 2018 08:42:08   #
richardsaccount
 
Could the natural curvature of the Earth factor in especially if the view has not much in the way of trees, buildings and other things?. A body of water or a prairie view might be susceptible to this phenomena Just a thought.

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Aug 11, 2018 09:17:29   #
knessr
 
I had a tendency to do that too, but my Canon M3 mirrorless camera has a level build into the viewfinder and backscreen so I can get the shot level before pressing the shutter button. Before that I had a level that slid on the hot shoe, but unless I was taking photos with the camera mounted on a tripod, it wasn't of much value.

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Aug 11, 2018 09:18:48   #
fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH
 
My wife's photos were consistently skewed at the same angle. Turned out she was pressing the shutter release button (on the right) harder than she needed and was literally pushing the camera down to the right. What always amazes me, is that an obvious tilt of the horizon needs only a 1- to 3-degrees tip back to be level. Doesn't take much tilt for your eye to notice it.

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Aug 11, 2018 09:32:27   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
I never noticed it until I started to do PP, then I figured out that I was habitually dropping the right end of the camera when I hit the shutter. So I turned on the grid lines and now pay more attention to it. With practice I'm getting better and it's more automatic.

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Aug 11, 2018 09:50:55   #
HamBar06 Loc: Philadelphia, PA
 
If you don't mind a bit of post processing, it's easy to fix. I have Photoshop Elements and with that, I can overlay a temporary grid and then do custom rotation in order to line things up vertically and horizontally. I have to assume that other programs could also work like this.
Larry

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Aug 11, 2018 10:04:17   #
jwn Loc: SOUTHEAST GEORGIA USA
 
I have 5d iv and it has level and grid patterns available in the view finder, check you camera manual for similar features

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Aug 11, 2018 10:08:29   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
mborn wrote:
This happens to me also and I use in LR Auto level


I forgot how I did it, but you can set up a smaller grid in LR that comes up when you are leveling (when the little curved arrow is in the corner when you're in crop mode)...I very rarely use the Auto Level function any more...

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Aug 11, 2018 10:08:38   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Bill_de wrote:
Some Nikons have an indicator that can be assigned to an Fn button via the custom control menu. It provides unobtrusive arrows at the bottom and on the right in the viewfinder. This is seperate from the virtual horizon.

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Note: straightening in post can cost some degree of sharpness. So, I have been told. Edges of buildings, general direction of trees, bottom edges of certain cloud formations can all help you find level. Actually just generally trying to be aware of the importance of level (or square) can help.

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Aug 11, 2018 10:14:44   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
Rich1939 wrote:


Note: straightening in post can cost some degree of sharpness. So, I have been told. Edges of buildings, general direction of trees, bottom edges of certain cloud formations can all help you find level. Actually just generally trying to be aware of the importance of level (or square) can help.
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...who "told" you? I don't see this condition at all...the software is rotating a flat plane, what's in it stays the same but you lose some content around the edge, how much depends on the severity of your crop/straighten.

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Aug 11, 2018 10:35:52   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
chasgroh wrote:
...who "told" you? I don't see this condition at all...the software is rotating a flat plane, what's in it stays the same but you lose some content around the edge, how much depends on the severity of your crop/straighten.

My "so I've been told" line was intended to be a bit tongue in cheek. However there is a slight loss due to re-positioning of pixels. The effect is slight but it does exist. Older cameras with smaller files showed it more than today's files.

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Aug 11, 2018 10:40:20   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
BlueMorel wrote:
Awhile ago I posted a photo and some nitpicker said I needed to straighten my horizon. Well, thanks a lot! Now I have to take more time in post-processing!

Not really a gripe, but thanks for the helpful hints from fellow Hoggers. I have since noticed I tend to tilt slightly while shooting, probably due to my stance or gaze. I still don't notice it often while shooting, but now that I'm looking for it, I sure notice in post! Just one of the many tips that make my hobby output better.
Awhile ago I posted a photo and some nitpicker sai... (show quote)


Careful....I had a bunch bitching here about the crooked horizon on a mountain shot!

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Aug 11, 2018 10:41:14   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
To me, it all goes back to "technique." You can have all of the viewfinder grids and bubble levels and such in the world. You can make absolutely sure that your camera is "plumb" and all horizon lines are perfectly horizontal BEFORE you trip the shutter. But, if your technique is not to "squeeze" the shutter rather than to "click" the shutter, there is an excellent chance that you may have to do that "easy fix" in post.

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Aug 11, 2018 10:43:44   #
brucebc Loc: Tooele, Utah
 
I used to use the grid method but sometimes it is hard to find a true vertical or horizontal in the view. My Pentax K-1 has an option to use a level indicator. At first I didn't think I would use it that much, now I check it for every shot and It has saved me much time in post.

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Aug 11, 2018 10:46:27   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
Bill_de wrote:
Some Nikons have an indicator that can be assigned to an Fn button via the custom control menu. It provides unobtrusive arrows at the bottom and on the right in the viewfinder. This is seperate from the virtual horizon.

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My Canon 7d II has a "level" bar to help with composition

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