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Jul 27, 2018 23:39:56   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Streets wrote:
A few days ago I powered up my Sony A57 and pressed the shutter button: What I got in the viewfinder was the message :Card locked". Well I'll just unlock the card with the little slider on the side. Uh oh, the slider is in the proper position. After some feeble attempts to correct the problem, I called a fine camera repair shop in Richardson, TX. and explained the situation. He told me that erasing data from the card while it's in the camera will choke up a device on the main camera circuit board and the fore-mentioned message will occur and tell you that you will need to get new guts for your camera. The gentleman also said that most cameras will eventually have this problem if you erase the card in camera. To avoid this from happening, one must format the card to erase data. Well, I always did want a 24 MP camera and what better reason could I have for getting one.
A few days ago I powered up my Sony A57 and presse... (show quote)


Its either a serious fault specific to SONY cameras, which I doubt, or the person you dealt with is far less experienced and knowledgeable than you thought.

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Jul 28, 2018 05:48:56   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
When I bought my Sony A65, it had a memory problem with "now you see it now you don't." I cured this by doing the in-out with the memory card many times. Contacts do oxidize and activity will polish and improve the electrical conductivity.

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Jul 28, 2018 06:10:28   #
johneccles Loc: Leyland UK
 
I have erased and formatted my SD cards forever and have never experienced this problem, I would consider the advice you received from the camera shop was incorrect.
Never mind you can go ahead and treat yourself.

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Jul 28, 2018 06:28:59   #
mleuck
 
Having high end academic degrees does not insure common sense.

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Jul 28, 2018 07:00:39   #
brianclark4 Loc: Beverley,East Yorkshire,UK
 
I have had digital cameras now for over 20 yrs and have deleted and formatted the memory cards in the cameras and have never ever had any issues. I just cannot see how deleting an image from a memory card can damage the PCB mechanism of the camera. I think if I were you I would need to get a second opinion from another repair centre.

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Jul 28, 2018 07:43:17   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Streets wrote:
It was NOT a camera shop. It was one of the most respected camera repair shops in Texas. He also told me that no one will touch a Sony for repair including him. Just to let you know, I have an M.A. in aeronautical engineering, and a B.S. in electrical engineering, and I am a persistent little S.O.B. when things break.


Did you ask why they would not "touch" a Sony for repair?

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Jul 28, 2018 08:38:56   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
My practice: I may delete images while in the field. But after downloading my shots from the SD card to the hard drive of my computer, I format the card with the low-level setting.
Streets wrote:
A few days ago I powered up my Sony A57 and pressed the shutter button: What I got in the viewfinder was the message :Card locked". Well I'll just unlock the card with the little slider on the side. Uh oh, the slider is in the proper position. After some feeble attempts to correct the problem, I called a fine camera repair shop in Richardson, TX. and explained the situation. He told me that erasing data from the card while it's in the camera will choke up a device on the main camera circuit board and the fore-mentioned message will occur and tell you that you will need to get new guts for your camera. The gentleman also said that most cameras will eventually have this problem if you erase the card in camera. To avoid this from happening, one must format the card to erase data. Well, I always did want a 24 MP camera and what better reason could I have for getting one.
A few days ago I powered up my Sony A57 and presse... (show quote)

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Jul 28, 2018 08:39:14   #
russjphoto
 
Back to the issue.

Have you tried another card in the Sony?

Have you tried the card in question in another camera or tried it in a computer/ card reader?

Is there any damage to the card?

Are there any images that you need to get off the card?

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Jul 28, 2018 08:44:16   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Streets wrote:
It was NOT a camera shop. It was one of the most respected camera repair shops in Texas. He also told me that no one will touch a Sony for repair including him. Just to let you know, I have an M.A. in aeronautical engineering, and a B.S. in electrical engineering, and I am a persistent little S.O.B. when things break.


I have no degrees in engineering; but on the surface, what you describe doesn't sound right.

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Jul 28, 2018 08:55:25   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
Streets wrote:
I didn't know that it was ethical to name commercial businesses. The name if the place is Archinal Camera Repair Inc.


If you’re story is true (which I’m sure it is), there’s no ethical problem. However, if deleting images via a camera’s delete button will eventually ruin a body, there is an ethical issue with regard to putting what amounts to a self destruct button on cameras!

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Jul 28, 2018 08:58:26   #
Satman Loc: Indy
 
First hit the reset button,

Remove the card, and the battery,

Camera stores do not have component techs in store, this sounds like a programming issue rather than a hardware problem.


Call Sony,

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Jul 28, 2018 09:00:27   #
LA Loc: Little Rock, AR
 
The guy at the store clearly has a deep dislike of Sony based on his "no one will touch a Sony for repair". That would explain his bizarre explanation which is clearly made-up to come up with an "answer" to your question and lets him take a potshot at Sony at the same time. This guy is a few transistors short of a motherboard.

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Jul 28, 2018 09:02:14   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
First of all call a Sony tech. Try a different card in the camera. I’ve always been told you need to format your cards to get rid of bits of information leftover on the card after erasing.

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Jul 28, 2018 09:10:01   #
BebuLamar
 
Rab-Eye wrote:
If you’re story is true (which I’m sure it is), there’s no ethical problem. However, if deleting images via a camera’s delete button will eventually ruin a body, there is an ethical issue with regard to putting what amounts to a self destruct button on cameras!


I am sure the OP told the truth and because of that I would never bring my camera to that store. I do live near that store.

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Jul 28, 2018 10:15:38   #
photodoc16
 
Streets,
A while ago I read on this forum, when I was having problems downloading images from my card in the camera, I was told that routinely downloading images to my computer via the camera could have negative consequences since the downloading process was intimately related to the main circuit boards of the rest of the camera. My explanation is lacking the details related at the time so it may not appear convincing. However, ever since, I have used a card reader to download directly to my computer. How relevant this is to the main discussion is unclear but makes the point that this inter-relatedness of components makes some sense and many people subscribe to it.
Nevertheless, I have been erasing images and then reformatting the card in the camera also without problems for years. In fact, other than erasing individual images by hand in the camera, how else can I do it?
Thanks,
Photodoc16

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