Your thoughts?
Jul 29, 2012 07:24:44 #
alberth2012 wrote:
Thank you Dunatic
Got you! It seems that most everybody concurs on the needs for cropping. Here I did just that, and somehow, the impression changed a bit--for me at least. She now appears more defiant (or even protective of her kid) than sad, which was not my feeling at that moment.
This is showing me the power of "framing"/"cropping" an image.
Thanks again.
Got you! It seems that most everybody concurs on the needs for cropping. Here I did just that, and somehow, the impression changed a bit--for me at least. She now appears more defiant (or even protective of her kid) than sad, which was not my feeling at that moment.
This is showing me the power of "framing"/"cropping" an image.
Thanks again.
Much better with this crop. You can see more of the defiance and emotion in her face. I, personally think you cropped a tiny bit too tight on the top of the Mother's head, but that's just my personal opinion. Add a 1/4" back on the top and take a tiny bit off the left side so she's not right in the middle of the frame. I'd place her just off centre.
By the way I like the dirty water stain & broken bit of wall in the original. It gave a sense of poverty & age to the scene, but I do agree that the tighter crop reveals her emotional state.
Perhaps 2 photos are in order. One of the tight crop of Mother & child, and one showing the crouching boy near the cracked wall with the Mother & child (as well, but just a tighter crop).
Jul 29, 2012 08:06:41 #
I don't mind the image as it is, the space arround the subjects enhances the percetion of aloneness or even abandonment. The mother looks desperate the child in her arms unaware but the young boy portrays awareness and a sense of helplessness and even though he is with the mother and child there is still the sense of seperateness which emphasises the overall despair of the image.
Jul 29, 2012 08:19:11 #
Just throwing this into the ring . . .
I agree that the image you caught wasn't the one you thought you were getting -- doesn't mean it still isn't interesting. Her look is provocative. The young child seems to be coping cheerfully. The teenage son is worried, perhaps feeling responsible for not yet being an adult . . . who knows. You HAVE caught a moment.
I've always loved these quotes from Diane Arbus:
"I used to have a theory about photographing. It was a sense of getting in between two actions, or in between action and repose. I dont mean to make a big deal of it. It was just like an expression I didnt see or wouldnt have seen.
The thing thats important to know is that you never know. Youre always sort of feeling your way.
One thing that struck me very early is that you dont put into a photograph whats going to come out. Or, vice versa, what comes out is not what you put in.
I never have taken a picture Ive intended. Theyre always better or worse."
I agree that the image you caught wasn't the one you thought you were getting -- doesn't mean it still isn't interesting. Her look is provocative. The young child seems to be coping cheerfully. The teenage son is worried, perhaps feeling responsible for not yet being an adult . . . who knows. You HAVE caught a moment.
I've always loved these quotes from Diane Arbus:
"I used to have a theory about photographing. It was a sense of getting in between two actions, or in between action and repose. I dont mean to make a big deal of it. It was just like an expression I didnt see or wouldnt have seen.
The thing thats important to know is that you never know. Youre always sort of feeling your way.
One thing that struck me very early is that you dont put into a photograph whats going to come out. Or, vice versa, what comes out is not what you put in.
I never have taken a picture Ive intended. Theyre always better or worse."
Jul 29, 2012 08:43:04 #
Personally I like the extra space offered in the original image. It makes the subjects look more lonely. I think the subjects look very sad and this image does tell a story. I like it.
Jul 29, 2012 09:08:21 #
alberth2012 wrote:
Is is possible to comment on two different levels? One, the technical; the other, the emotional?
Thanks guys,
Thanks guys,
I agree with your thoughts to crop this would take away the desolated
emotion that is portrayed
Jul 29, 2012 09:46:11 #
Jul 29, 2012 09:52:27 #
I like the picture as it is. The emotion I see in it is 3 people going about their daily life, tired of waiting for a bus.
Jul 29, 2012 11:22:05 #
Dang, I've never commented on a photo before and at my level I'm hardly qualified to comment on technical merits. But, the reason I'm commenting is that I had an immediate emotional reaction to this photo. I actually like the "space" around the subjects in your original rendition. Simply stated...I love this photo.
Jul 29, 2012 11:23:47 #
jk48
Loc: Camarillo, California
alberth2012 wrote:
Is is possible to comment on two different levels? One, the technical; the other, the emotional?
Thanks guys,
Thanks guys,
crop definetely..I would be tempted to crop out the Mom and baby and just focus on the boy..
Jul 29, 2012 12:39:03 #
Jim B
Loc: Central Kansas
I'll vote for the photo as is for the emotional impact. It may not be technically perfect, but it tells a story. That's what photography is all about.
I remember a quote from a photographer (Eddie Adams ?):
"Read all of the books you can find about photography, then throw them all away and do just the opposite."
I remember a quote from a photographer (Eddie Adams ?):
"Read all of the books you can find about photography, then throw them all away and do just the opposite."
Jul 29, 2012 13:15:21 #
alberth2012 wrote:
Is is possible to comment on two different levels? One, the technical; the other, the emotional?
Thanks guys,
Thanks guys,
Very nice. Would as a start, crop closer then look at some tone and other adjustments. I think the emotional aspect as a subject is great! :thumbup:
Jul 29, 2012 15:05:15 #
To me it conveys not so much sadness as patience and stiocism. Kind of like whatever we are waiting for will get here when it gets here. I like the second photo better where it has been cropped so there isn't so much wall above her head but I would have left the bottom alone to show all of the red curb. The red added some color to an otherwise very drab atmosphere. I am just wondering how it might look in b&w.
Jul 29, 2012 15:11:22 #
I agree. My first thought was the wall showed how alone they felt. I am far from professional . Just know I liked the shot .
alberth2012 wrote:
Thank you Leicaflex,
That is exactly how I felt in encountering them on a walk in Granada, Guatemala. I think cropping it will lose a bit that sense of loneliness, Don't you?
Thanks again.
That is exactly how I felt in encountering them on a walk in Granada, Guatemala. I think cropping it will lose a bit that sense of loneliness, Don't you?
Thanks again.
Jul 29, 2012 15:13:18 #
And then you would have two very thought provoking photos.
jk48 wrote:
crop definetely..I would be tempted to crop out the Mom and baby and just focus on the boy..
alberth2012 wrote:
Is is possible to comment on two different levels? One, the technical; the other, the emotional?
Thanks guys,
Thanks guys,
crop definetely..I would be tempted to crop out the Mom and baby and just focus on the boy..
Jul 29, 2012 15:28:31 #
In my totally UNprofessional opinion... the original shot caught my attention immediately because of the total isolation of the family. Like they are going thru a very stressful time with no one to lean on or to care. Just complete despair. The cropped one of mother and child conveyed a very different feeling of "I will survive this too!" Very dramatic picture.
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