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Jul 23, 2018 07:35:26   #
Kmgw9v (a regular here)
 
mharvey wrote:
But that's all relative to your camera's resolution and what you intend to do with the images. If I was still using a 12mp camera and only shooting casual, family and vacation photos at 4X6 or 8X10 (without much cropping), I would (and did) consider it a "great walk-around lens".


Everything is relative.
We are not all pros; we all don't need, want, or can afford the best Nikon glass.
The 28-300 has its place.

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Jul 23, 2018 08:02:02   #
rmalarz (a regular here)
 
I've used this combination for some time now. I've had no issues with it. A lot of people will say it's a weak combination. I've nor found it such. Here's a couple of photos taken with that combination.
--Bob
rjrbigdog wrote:
who has this lens and what do you think?


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Jul 23, 2018 08:05:58   #
GoofyNewfie (a regular here)
 
rmalarz wrote:
I've used this combination for some time now. I've had no issues with it. A lot of people will say it's a weak combination. I've nor found it such. Here's a couple of photos taken with that combination.
--Bob


Looks like you got the black & white version!
Love that second shot.

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Jul 23, 2018 08:17:42   #
Fotomacher
 
rjrbigdog wrote:
who has this lens and what do you think?


I bought a new one of these about 5 years ago. Found the focus to be soft and I was really not pleased with the overall IQ. I traded it straight up for a like new AF 80-200mm f/2.8D and bought a like new AFS 300mm f/4. I was able to do this because I also have a AFS 24-70mm f/2.8 in the bag. I had thought that the “all round” lens would let me leave some weight behind when travelling but overall the trade off of the poorer IQ and variable aperture was not suitable. I am shooting with a D810.

PS - I traded the 80-200 last fall on a like new AFS 70-200mm f/2.8VR2 because it focuses faster and can accept my TC17E2.

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Jul 23, 2018 09:04:40   #
joewade2
 
I have a D800. I use this lens all the time and like it a lot. Its very flexible.

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Jul 23, 2018 09:15:14   #
wetreed
 
You can solve all your needs with the Tamron 18-400 3.5. Best all around lens ever. Don’t spend your vacation changing lens.

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Jul 23, 2018 09:18:37   #
GoofyNewfie (a regular here)
 
wetreed wrote:
You can solve all your needs with the Tamron 18-400 3.5. Best all around lens ever. Don’t spend your vacation changing lens.


The D800 the OP has is a full frame camera.
The Tamron 18-400 is a DX lens.
That will cause more issues than solve them.

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Jul 23, 2018 10:12:46   #
selmslie (a regular here)
 
rmalarz wrote:
I've used this combination for some time now. I've had no issues with it. A lot of people will say it's a weak combination. I've nor found it such. Here's a couple of photos taken with that combination.
--Bob

Maybe that's because you are not looking closely enough. If you look at https://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Ratings you will find that there is only one zoom lens covering that range that is worse.

But then, any super zoom lens is going to be marginal. The range is there for the convenience of not having to switch lenses, not for quality.

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Jul 23, 2018 10:15:18   #
monrodeo
 
Great grab and go lens. I've been using it over a year and even now on my d850. For planned shootings I bring the 2.8s and primes. Family events, FB, instagram etc.. it works great.

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Jul 23, 2018 10:17:28   #
rmalarz (a regular here)
 
Maybe I have looked close enough. I regularly make 12x18 prints and occasionally 24x36 prints. They are quite sharp with no perceivable issues. However, I will admit to not peeping pixels. That in itself is a waste of time.
--Bob
selmslie wrote:
Maybe that's because you are not looking closely enough. If you look at https://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Ratings you will find that there is only one zoom lens covering that range that is worse.

But then, any super zoom lens is going to be marginal. The range is there for the convenience of not having to switch lenses, not for quality.

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Jul 23, 2018 10:29:26   #
selmslie (a regular here)
 
rmalarz wrote:
Maybe I have looked close enough. I regularly make 12x18 prints and occasionally 24x36 prints. They are quite sharp with no perceivable issues. However, I will admit to not peeping pixels. That in itself is a waste of time.
--Bob

Any image will look OK if you stand back far enough because normal viewing distance is about the same as the print width. That's why you can get away with about 9 MP and print to any size.

According to the link I posted, DxOMark figures the Nikon version of this lens delivers about 11 MP (perceptual). By comparison the AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/4G delivers 30 and the Tamron SP AF 28-75mm F/2.8 XR Di can do 16.

None of the moderate to super zooms even come close to a decent prime lens.

Why would anyone invest in a 36 MP camera and then handicap it with an 11 MP lens?

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Jul 23, 2018 10:44:15   #
treadwl (a regular here)
 
rjrbigdog wrote:
So having a 24-70mm , 70-200mm both 2.8 and a 70-300mm all Nikon is better then just having one lens 28-300mm?


I have those lenses and the answer is YES. But I have replaced the 70-300 long ago with a Nikone 200-400 and great superior results.
The other two lenses are just superior gear and the best that Nikon makes. They always produce results. The D800 series camera expose and lens flaws so you need the top quality lenses to get the good results.

Sadly, those are not cheap!!

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Jul 23, 2018 10:51:07   #
rmalarz (a regular here)
 
At times your propensity for referring to specifications and test results bring to mind a statement made by Lord Darlington in "Lady Windemere's Fan" by Oscar Wilde. "...a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing".

If photography were nothing but specifications and tables of test results, we'd have nothing at which to look. I'll simply suggest you look at the pictures. The quality is there.
--Bob

selmslie wrote:
Any image will look OK if you stand back far enough because normal viewing distance is about the same as the print width. That's why you can get away with about 9 MP and print to any size.

According to the link I posted, DxOMark figures the Nikon version of this lens delivers about 11 MP (perceptual). By comparison the AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/4G delivers 30 and the Tamron SP AF 28-75mm F/2.8 XR Di can do 16.

None of the moderate to super zooms even come close to a decent prime lens.

Why would anyone invest in a 36 MP camera and then handicap it with an 11 MP lens?
Any image will look OK if you stand back far enoug... (show quote)

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Jul 23, 2018 11:06:06   #
selmslie (a regular here)
 
rmalarz wrote:
At times your propensity for referring to specifications and test results bring to mind a statement made by Lord Darlington in "Lady Windemere's Fan" by Oscar Wilde. "...a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing".

If photography were nothing but specifications and tables of test results, we'd have nothing at which to look. I'll simply suggest you look at the pictures. The quality is there.
--Bob

Your subject matter and composition is interesting, particularly the post processing of #2, but the visual quality does not hold up under close inspection.

There is no way that anyone can judge the technical quality of either image when all you provide are tiny reproductions - 0.7 MP and 1.4 MP respectively.

A couple of nice prime lens (maybe 28mm and 85mm but we can't see the EXIF information) would have made both image much better.

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Jul 23, 2018 13:03:19   #
mas24
 
The topic of whether or not the Nikon FX 28-300mm lens is a very good lens, has been discussed on this forum in past months. I don't own this lens, but a friend uses this lens on a 24 megapixels crop sensor, D7100. And his photos look good to me.

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