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Jul 16, 2018 22:06:43   #
rabbitslayer Loc: NW Iowa
 
Having essential tremors most of my 77 years, I really have to work at holding the camera steady, so I feel proud when I get a good picture. However, I have to say the anti vib lens make it easier, so I have say my camera does take good pictures.

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Jul 16, 2018 22:19:38   #
ssohl Loc: NJ
 
Say “Thank you.”

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Jul 16, 2018 22:48:10   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
[quote=Architect1776]
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Guns are a tool that people use to kill people. If people didn't have the guns then people would not be killed by guns. It's all just how one arranges the words...

Guns are a tool to target shoot, and many other forms of competitive shooting. They are used to control over population of deer and other animals to keep herds healthy and provide millions of dollars to the government for wildlife management each year. There are hundreds of other uses for firearms including collecting them as works of art.
So before you make yourself look anymore foolish regurgitating the DNC talking points educate yourself on the truth.
Guns are a tool that people use to kill people. If... (show quote)


I don't know what dimension you reside in but guns can and are used to kill people. Guns were invented for only 1 reason and that was to kill. It doesn't matter what they are used to kill; what matters is they are meant to kill. As for the DNC, I'm not a democrat. As far as making myself look foolish, if you truly believe firearms primary intention was not killing, then you are a much bigger fool than I can ever be.
I use to collect firearms, both rifled and smooth bore, handguns, rifles, shotguns and muzzle loaders. I use to mold my own lead and reload my ammunition. I've restored several 1st and 2nd world war rifles and I've made several muzzle loaders. They were a blast to shoot. I use to hunt but gave it up when I came to the conclusion there are way too many people running around the woods, with loaded weapons, that shouldn't be. I still have my hunting rifles, a .30-06, 7MM and a .444, but I no longer have any shot guns, hand guns or muzzle loaders.

I do believe the original point was guns don't kill people, people kill people. I was simply pointing out that guns are a tool used by people to kill people, that's all, nothing about gun control, which I am a firm believer in. You should always have control of your gun.

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Jul 16, 2018 23:03:33   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Bill_de wrote:
The gist of this rather long thread is that it is the Photographer, not the camera.

But we have even longer threads on whether Nikon is better than Canon, or are DSLRs better than Mirrorless.

Hmmm

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But isn't it both the photographer and the camera?!
You're telling me Canon isn't as good as Nikon? Or is it Nikon isn't as good as Canon. Just too confusing...
It's been my experience that DSLR'S aren't necessarily better than MILC'S or vice versa, only different.

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Jul 16, 2018 23:19:11   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
PeterBergh wrote:
You fell into your own trap: people are not killed by guns, people are killed by other people who use guns to kill. If nobody had guns, the murderers would just use other tools, such as knives, baseball bats, frying pans, rocks, poison, vehicles, etc. The world is full of potential murder weapons.

Again, the problem with murderers is that they kill without legal justification; the tool is irrelevant.


Seriously...!? What trap are you talking about? The subject matter is guns, not frying pans or out of control space debris. Since the subject matter was guns and guns are the tool in question then the tool is totally relevant. Anything other than a gun is totally irrelevant. And where did I mention murderers? Now you are just twisting what I said and putting words in my mouth.

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Jul 16, 2018 23:19:15   #
josquin1 Loc: Massachusetts
 
Reminds me of a story about the great violinist, Jascha Heifetz. He had just finished performing a recital and an admirer came up to him and said, "wow your violin sounds fabulous." Heifetz looked at him picked up his violin and shook it, and he said," Do you hear something? I don't. "

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Jul 17, 2018 00:08:38   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
kskarma wrote:
I'm sure we've all heard this a few times at least...and I'm wondering about the verious ways we respond to those well-meaning comments. Often our 'inner voice' is saying, "Hey, I took that photo, I selected the lighting, composition, timing, exposure, etc...the camera was just the tool I used...!" Our better angels usually come to the rescue with some version of, "Thank you, very much", but I'd like to hear the reactions or responses from others.

Who hasn't heard the snappy come-back that goes something like..."Shakespeare wrote some great plays, he must have had a very good typewriter..!"
I'm sure we've all heard this a few times at least... (show quote)


I often hear, "you must have a really good camera." I simply say, "yes, I do have a good camera," and thank them. It's not worth the effort when they actually do mean well.

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Jul 17, 2018 03:50:51   #
Paul Moshay Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
In a couple of photo groups I have belonged to in the past 70 years, it was often said when a very good picture was shown, "you must have a great camera". It was a running joke that everyone knew and understood. We all knew it was not the camera, lens or film but the cameraperson and their creativity that did the job.

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Jul 17, 2018 07:47:35   #
jaimeblackwell Loc: Lewiston, Maine
 
You say "Yeah, I really like it"..... Thanks!

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Jul 17, 2018 13:13:23   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
Thank you?

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Jul 17, 2018 13:53:49   #
Photographer Jim Loc: Rio Vista, CA
 
When i was doing art festivals i would often hear the "You must have a good camera" line (or some variation of same). It never bothered me, and I never felt a need to engage in a "its the photographer, not the camera" conversation. I never took their comment as anything other than a means for the person to open the conversation with me, the artist. I'd simply reply that yes, I'm happy with my equipment, and then turn the conversation to the images on display.

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Jul 17, 2018 15:13:48   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Photographer Jim wrote:
When i was doing art festivals i would often hear the "You must have a good camera" line (or some variation of same). It never bothered me, and I never felt a need to engage in a "its the photographer, not the camera" conversation. I never took their comment as anything other than a means for the person to open the conversation with me, the artist. I'd simply reply that yes, I'm happy with my equipment, and then turn the conversation to the images on display.



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Jul 17, 2018 16:05:42   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
kskarma wrote:
"Your camera takes REAL good pictures"

Your mouth gives real good compliments.

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Jul 17, 2018 21:36:52   #
skywolf
 
I usually smile and say "I taught it everything it knows." Usually works.

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Jul 17, 2018 22:22:56   #
lmTrying Loc: WV Northern Panhandle
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Now here's an interesting term, a professional level photographer. Just what is a professional level photographer?! It's always been my understanding that what makes a professional a professional isn't a level of skill. It simply means someone is engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as a pastime. I know a person who is a professional photographer. He works for a company that does injection molding and his job is to photograph and catalog the companies products and processes. Outside work he likes to ride his motorcycle; that's how I know him. I've actually handed him my Canon EOS 5D IV and Nikon D500 on separate occasions and he told me these cameras are very different from what he uses at work and would take a while to figure out how to use one.
Now here's an interesting term, a professional lev... (show quote)


LOL, you got me.

Actually I expected some one to take me to task on my "gooder one" comment about bad cameras.

Now that I look back on this post, I see my possible poor choice of words. You are correct, there are a lot of professional photographers out there that can take technically correct images that have little or no interest to anyone other than to record or prove facts. My intent in using the term "professional level photographer" was to indicate someone having the ability and talent to take interesting and beautiful photos that grab peoples interest to the point of them laying down hard earned cash to posses that image. Some of those people own studios, and make a living taking and selling photographs. Others work hard to perfect their hobby to be the best that they can. These are the two groups of people I was trying to refer to by using fewer words.

This seems to be my shortcoming, trying to explain something in as short a description as I can. It seems like I always have to come back and explain myself. But that's OK. At least I know someone reads what I have to say, and has enough interest to make comment.

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