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Jul 8, 2018 18:08:09   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
Beautiful images.
Gene51 wrote:
You probably have what you need right now. I generally advise against using ultra wide lenses because of the amount of sky and foreground they take in that usually has to be cropped away, and the inherent extension distortion, barrel or complex distortion, (which can usually be fixed in post processing), and the overall "special purpose" nature of these kinds of lenses. Many make the mistake of thinking they need a wide lens to "take it all in" when what they really need is to compose carefully and avoid taking it all in. But sometimes it is necessary to go wide.

I did the attached image with an 18mm lens (Nikkor 18-200mm F4-5.6) on a 10 mp D200 in 2008. I shot it as a three shot pano, with the camera in landscape orientation. My regret is that I did not shoot it with the camera in portrait orientation, which would have taken in a little bit more of that gorgeous sky. Oh, and I had a Sigma 10-20mm in my bag, which I did not use because of my comments above.

On the other hand, I much prefer one of the component images of that pano, which I have sold numerous times as a 24"x36" fine art print.

I have no issues using a modern zoom lens. Just because it is a zoom should not disqualify it getting good, sharp, reflection-free images.

The last image was taken with a D800 and a 24-70mm F2.8 This time the camera was vertical and it was a 3 frame pano. It's not beach, but it does illustrate an alternative to using an ultrawide lens.
You probably have what you need right now. I gener... (show quote)

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Jul 8, 2018 18:19:04   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Bike guy wrote:
Long time land-locked photographer taking a trip in a few weeks to St. Simons island in GA and St. Petersburg FL
I own a Nikon 7100.
My lenses include a 35mm 1.8, 50mm 1.8, 40mm macro, f2.8
, kit lens 18-55mm and 18-140mm 3.5/4.6. Oh and the kit 55-200mm

Should i be looking at a wider than 18mm lens than I can get with two zooms?
If so, any suggestions?
Adorama and B&H have a Nikon AF-P DX NIKKOR 10-20mm f/4.5-5.6G VR Zoom Lens for $249 refurbished. Any familiarity with that lens?
Thanks.
Long time land-locked photographer taking a trip i... (show quote)
Which ever lens is your favorite, should be the one you should use (if you have to limit yourself to just one)!

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Jul 8, 2018 19:02:05   #
David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
 
Bultaco wrote:
I've been there several times the Nikon 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED IF AF-S DX NIKKOR VR II is my walk around lens, fast and sharp.
I've not been to that location, but I agree that the 18-200 VR2 lens is very nice. If one needs to go wider, then one should shoot a panorama sequence and stitch them together, IMO. You don't have that lens, but the 18-55 and 55-200 lenses give you the same reach. I would just take those, if it were I. Although I don't own one, a macro lens for flower photography might be a nice thing to have.

Gene51, those panoramas are outstanding, and nicely illustrate why an ultrawide lens is not needed.

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Jul 8, 2018 21:18:34   #
broncomaniac Loc: Lynchburg, VA
 
Bird Dawg wrote:
The 18-140 will cover everything. Beautiful island with a lot photo opps. A lot good food too.
Enjoy,

Wes


The moment I spotted "18-140" in OP's post I said to myself you already have what you need.

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Jul 8, 2018 22:36:36   #
ecurb1105
 
Bike guy wrote:
Long time land-locked photographer taking a trip in a few weeks to St. Simons island in GA and St. Petersburg FL
I own a Nikon 7100.
My lenses include a 35mm 1.8, 50mm 1.8, 40mm macro, f2.8
, kit lens 18-55mm and 18-140mm 3.5/4.6. Oh and the kit 55-200mm

Should i be looking at a wider than 18mm lens than I can get with two zooms?
If so, any suggestions?
Adorama and B&H have a Nikon AF-P DX NIKKOR 10-20mm f/4.5-5.6G VR Zoom Lens for $249 refurbished. Any familiarity with that lens?
Thanks.
Long time land-locked photographer taking a trip i... (show quote)


I'd suggest the 35mm as your primary lens, with a lens hood, and the 18-140 as backup. I'm a firm believer in the normal lens, I like the focal length and the speed.

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Jul 9, 2018 07:41:03   #
SparkyNYC Loc: NYC & Coconut Creek,Fl
 
Isn't Central Park a beautiful place.
Love your images.

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Jul 9, 2018 08:51:37   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
David in Dallas wrote:
I've not been to that location, but I agree that the 18-200 VR2 lens is very nice. If one needs to go wider, then one should shoot a panorama sequence and stitch them together, IMO. You don't have that lens, but the 18-55 and 55-200 lenses give you the same reach. I would just take those, if it were I. Although I don't own one, a macro lens for flower photography might be a nice thing to have.

Gene51, those panoramas are outstanding, and nicely illustrate why an ultrawide lens is not needed.
I've not been to that location, but I agree that t... (show quote)


Thanks David!

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Jul 9, 2018 08:51:59   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
SparkyNYC wrote:
Isn't Central Park a beautiful place.
Love your images.


Thanks, Sparky!

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Jul 9, 2018 08:52:37   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
DavidPine wrote:
Beautiful images.


Thanks, David!

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Jul 9, 2018 09:26:52   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Yeah, wide and ultrawide lenses are terrible for seascapes and landscapes! Obviously I should have used something else for all these ()....





The Nikkor AF-P 10-20mm is a freakin' BARGAIN! Get it.... and a Circular Polarizer to use on it sometimes.

Check compatibility with D7100 (I think a camera firmware update is needed.)

Oh, and I change my lenses out whenever I need to, in order to get the shot I want. That means occasionally cleaning the sensor, especially when working in dusty places...



I do minimize lens changes at times by using two or three cameras set up in advance with different lenses. But there's usually not a lot of dust around the ocean... just be careful of blowing sand, if it's windy.
Yeah, wide and ultrawide lenses are i terrible /i... (show quote)


Beautiful shots, Alan.

I've always been a wide angle fan, and although panoramas have become a thousand times easier to accomplish in the DSLR age, I enjoy composing and shooting with my Sigma 20-20mm in DX format. One of my very favorite lenses.

Andy

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Jul 9, 2018 09:29:23   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
Gene51 wrote:
You probably have what you need right now. I generally advise against using ultra wide lenses because of the amount of sky and foreground they take in that usually has to be cropped away, and the inherent extension distortion, barrel or complex distortion, (which can usually be fixed in post processing), and the overall "special purpose" nature of these kinds of lenses. Many make the mistake of thinking they need a wide lens to "take it all in" when what they really need is to compose carefully and avoid taking it all in. But sometimes it is necessary to go wide.

I did the attached image with an 18mm lens (Nikkor 18-200mm F4-5.6) on a 10 mp D200 in 2008. I shot it as a three shot pano, with the camera in landscape orientation. My regret is that I did not shoot it with the camera in portrait orientation, which would have taken in a little bit more of that gorgeous sky. Oh, and I had a Sigma 10-20mm in my bag, which I did not use because of my comments above.

On the other hand, I much prefer one of the component images of that pano, which I have sold numerous times as a 24"x36" fine art print.

I have no issues using a modern zoom lens. Just because it is a zoom should not disqualify it getting good, sharp, reflection-free images.

The last image was taken with a D800 and a 24-70mm F2.8 This time the camera was vertical and it was a 3 frame pano. It's not beach, but it does illustrate an alternative to using an ultrawide lens.
You probably have what you need right now. I gener... (show quote)


As always, your work is stunning. I'm resolved now to taking a better look at some panorama stitching, although my Sigma 10-20mm is one of my favorite lenses.

Andy

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Jul 9, 2018 09:49:20   #
David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
 
I notice obvious stretching at the edges of photos taken with my 18-200 VR2 at 18mm--this is really apparent when photographing a group of people. (Make sure there aren't any ladies on the edges of groups--they REALLY don't like being made to look fatter!) I don't have anything wider than 18mm but I'd assume that the stretching is even worse with them. Using panoramas for wide pictures is a way to reduce that effect.

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Jul 9, 2018 15:34:42   #
Bike guy Loc: Atlanta
 
I appreciate all the replies and suggestions on this topic.
Thank you very much.

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Jul 10, 2018 06:48:34   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
AndyH wrote:
As always, your work is stunning. I'm resolved now to taking a better look at some panorama stitching, although my Sigma 10-20mm is one of my favorite lenses.

Andy


Thanks, Andy.

I had a Sigma 10-20 - the older F4-5.6 version. It was a lot of fun. My first copy had a centering issue (QA was not very good back in 2006). You can see the right side of the first image is visibly softer than the right side.

The second image shows a much better 10-20, but still, the volume anamorphosis (the round trash can looks like it's an oval trash can), makes this (and many other superwides) a lens for special applications.

The third image also shows that volume volume anamorphosis, this time with the round tree stump. It also shows extension distortion, making things in the foreground unexpectedly large, and things in the background unexpectedly small and distant.

It was that lens that led me to experimenting and ultimately adopting pano stitching with longer focal length lenses. I still have a Nikkor 14-24mm F2.8 which I occasionally use, but it is my least used lens, even though it is sharp, fast, and does a really nice job with certain subjects. Wide sweeping landscapes/city scapes are not the best uses for this category of lenses.


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Jul 10, 2018 06:49:51   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
David in Dallas wrote:
I notice obvious stretching at the edges of photos taken with my 18-200 VR2 at 18mm--this is really apparent when photographing a group of people. (Make sure there aren't any ladies on the edges of groups--they REALLY don't like being made to look fatter!) I don't have anything wider than 18mm but I'd assume that the stretching is even worse with them. Using panoramas for wide pictures is a way to reduce that effect.


There is a fix for that.

https://www.dxo.com/us/photography/tutorials/understanding-volume-deformation

Which is resonably effective with some images.

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