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Jul 7, 2018 20:28:29   #
Travelin' Bud Loc: New Mexico, Central Ohio & Eastern Kentucky
 

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Jul 7, 2018 23:16:59   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
SaR_foto wrote:
All for the L lenses that have an EF mount will also couple and fully function on the EF-S mount used on crop sensor bodies.


Yes, but as you said, L series. You have red dot (EF) and white square (EF-S) indicators on Canon lenses and bodies. If the body has a red and a white indicator on the mount, all EF and EF-S lenses will work. If it only has a red dot indicator, only EF lenses will work. Lenses with a white square only, will not work on bodies with a red dot only.

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Jul 8, 2018 07:48:15   #
Rhl0630
 
Sounds like you have a crop sensor camera. The 15-85 is much better than the 17-85. Really L quality.

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Jul 8, 2018 08:09:28   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
I use Nikon gear but I know the 24-105 f4 L lens has excellent optical quality...and a longer range.

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Jul 8, 2018 08:23:02   #
pbradin Loc: Florida
 
The "Canon 28-80 f2.8L" does not exist, at least not in anything that Canon has produced recently. It might be an old FD mount lens that will not fit on your camera or a very early EF mount lens from 15-20 years ago. In any case, if anyone says that it is a new lens, then get away from that site. They are trying to steal your money. eBay is notorious for people who are totally ignorant about what they are selling or they are scam artists.

You didn't say if you were looking at new or used lenses. Right now, every lens in my bag was bought used/refurbished and they are all "L" series lenses. They were bought from B&H and KEH (before they were sold). I have had no problems with either of those two lenses. The the other three lenses were bought from a very good friend who I would trust with my soul. Replacing a lens that is 17mm at the short end with a lens that is 24mm or 28mm at the short end will make a huge difference in what and how you shoot. If you use your old lens at the 17mm length very often, a lens that only goes down to 24mm at the short end will be a big disappointment to you.

I only buy used equipment from B&H Photo in NYC, Adorama in NYC, KEH in Atlanta (I have not bought anything since they were sold a couple of years ago), or good, trusted friends. There is a new outfit called mpb.com that sells used equipment but I have not dealt with them. I also buy refurbished lenses from Canon's website or B&H and Adorama. All of that being said, if you are looking at new lenses, then go to one of the bigger retailers on the internet (B&H and Adorama are the biggest and are very helpful and reliable. Calumet is also pretty good).

If you still want a true wide angle (16mm or 17mm) you can buy either one of those focal lengths new, used or refurbished (Canon 17-40 f4 L or 16-35 f2.8 L). The 17-40 can be bought relatively cheaply (about $800 new) but the 16-35mm is going to set you back well over $1200, new. I have the 17-40 and it does fine for me and it is a lot less expensive and the 1mm difference is not enough for me to worry about. If I wanted wider, I would go VERY wide to their new 11-14mm zoom at somewhere around $2400.

You might also look at Sigma's line of "Art" lenses. They are all relatively new (last 4 years) and you might find one that fits your needs. Also, I would go to B&H or Adorama's websites just to get a good handle on new/used costs and to Canon's website for refurbished availability/costs.

Good luck in your search

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Jul 8, 2018 08:32:54   #
pbradin Loc: Florida
 
The canon is a 17-40 f4L, not 17-50.

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Jul 8, 2018 08:37:10   #
pbradin Loc: Florida
 
Your 70-200 is a full frame lens, as are all "L" series lenses. They will work on full frame or crop sensor cameras.

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Jul 8, 2018 08:41:17   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
pbradin wrote:
The canon is a 17-40 f4L, not 17-50.

And, the 17-40L is a wonderful lens. But, having owned that lens concurrent with the EFS 10-22, my opinion is the image results are identical. There's no reason to pay a premium of the red band and lenshood in the box to get the same image performance. There are many EF lenses (and a few EFS) without the redband that perform to the highest image standards. Don't let the hype be the primary driver of your decision making.

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Jul 8, 2018 08:41:52   #
pbradin Loc: Florida
 
The canon 28-80 "L" series lens is a VERY OLD lens and may not have the resolution for a camera that is 18mp or higher. It may not even work on a digital camera. Some of the older lenses won't.

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Jul 8, 2018 08:44:33   #
johntaylor333
 
Travelin' Bud wrote:
Hi all.

I've been contemplating on updating my Canon EF-S 17-85 F/4 lens to an "L" lens. I've been watching the prices on Ebay between two different ones; 28-80 F/2.8 L and the 24-70 F/4 L.

Any constructive thoughts as to favor one over the other? Should I worry about losing the difference in the Lower focal range (17 compared to 24 & 28)?

Thank you,
Bud in New Mexico


I have the 24-70 f/4L and like it a lot. Good, general purpose focal lengths and the semi-macro (0.7X) is very useful. It's the lens always on my camera when I start out unless I'm sure I need my 70-200 or 100-400.

You will lose a bit of very wide angle, so keep your old lens for that but the new lens will give much sharper images, better color reproduction, less aberration, etc. and it's also much sturdier and weather sealed.

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Jul 8, 2018 08:48:29   #
pbradin Loc: Florida
 
As far as the 17-40 L lens versus the 10-22 non-L lens, the 10-22 has an excellent reputation for image quality, but you give up two things with it. First, it is not a "weather sealed lens". Second, if you move to a full-frame camera in the future, it will not work on any full-frame camera. True "L" series lenses will work of crop-sensor cameras or full-frame lenses. If there is a possibility of upgrading to a full-frame camera (5D in any of its incarnations, 6D or 1DX), then the 10-22 will not work. Keep that in mind.

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Jul 8, 2018 08:53:51   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
Travelin' Bud wrote:
Hi all.

I've been contemplating on updating my Canon EF-S 17-85 F/4 lens to an "L" lens. I've been watching the prices on Ebay between two different ones; 28-80 F/2.8 L and the 24-70 F/4 L.

Any constructive thoughts as to favor one over the other? Should I worry about losing the difference in the Lower focal range (17 compared to 24 & 28)?

Thank you,
Bud in New Mexico


You might want to consider one of the Canon 16-35 L lenses, they come in 2.8 and 4.0 versions. The 4.0 is very highly considered and reasonably priced. They are EF lenses but should work on your camera.

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Jul 8, 2018 09:00:54   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
Travelin' Bud wrote:
Hi all.

I've been contemplating on updating my Canon EF-S 17-85 F/4 lens to an "L" lens. I've been watching the prices on Ebay between two different ones; 28-80 F/2.8 L and the 24-70 F/4 L.

Any constructive thoughts as to favor one over the other? Should I worry about losing the difference in the Lower focal range (17 compared to 24 & 28)?

Thank you,
Bud in New Mexico


Doesn't the answer really revolve around what you shoot? You current 17 is really 25 on a crop sensor. Moving to 24 or 28 and you may be disappointed if doing landscapes. What doesn't your current lens not provide that you think you will get with the 'L'.

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Jul 8, 2018 09:01:20   #
brooklyn-camera I Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
Go check out Canon refurbished... I have purchased 5 L series and never a problem and there are no dings, pings or anything wrong with these lenses.

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Jul 8, 2018 09:26:57   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
pbradin wrote:
The "Canon 28-80 f2.8L" does not exist, at least not in anything that Canon has produced recently. It might be an old FD mount lens that will not fit on your camera or a very early EF mount lens from 15-20 years ago. In any case, if anyone says that it is a new lens, then get away from that site. They are trying to steal your money. eBay is notorious for people who are totally ignorant about what they are selling or they are scam artists.

You didn't say if you were looking at new or used lenses. Right now, every lens in my bag was bought used/refurbished and they are all "L" series lenses. They were bought from B&H and KEH (before they were sold). I have had no problems with either of those two lenses. The the other three lenses were bought from a very good friend who I would trust with my soul. Replacing a lens that is 17mm at the short end with a lens that is 24mm or 28mm at the short end will make a huge difference in what and how you shoot. If you use your old lens at the 17mm length very often, a lens that only goes down to 24mm at the short end will be a big disappointment to you.

I only buy used equipment from B&H Photo in NYC, Adorama in NYC, KEH in Atlanta (I have not bought anything since they were sold a couple of years ago), or good, trusted friends. There is a new outfit called mpb.com that sells used equipment but I have not dealt with them. I also buy refurbished lenses from Canon's website or B&H and Adorama. All of that being said, if you are looking at new lenses, then go to one of the bigger retailers on the internet (B&H and Adorama are the biggest and are very helpful and reliable. Calumet is also pretty good).

If you still want a true wide angle (16mm or 17mm) you can buy either one of those focal lengths new, used or refurbished (Canon 17-40 f4 L or 16-35 f2.8 L). The 17-40 can be bought relatively cheaply (about $800 new) but the 16-35mm is going to set you back well over $1200, new. I have the 17-40 and it does fine for me and it is a lot less expensive and the 1mm difference is not enough for me to worry about. If I wanted wider, I would go VERY wide to their new 11-14mm zoom at somewhere around $2400.

You might also look at Sigma's line of "Art" lenses. They are all relatively new (last 4 years) and you might find one that fits your needs. Also, I would go to B&H or Adorama's websites just to get a good handle on new/used costs and to Canon's website for refurbished availability/costs.

Good luck in your search
The "Canon 28-80 f2.8L" does not exist, ... (show quote)


The EF 28-80 2.8-4L was the forerunner to the EF 28-70 2.8L which was the forerunner to the 24-70 2.8L lenses. It was the 6th EF L series lens made from 1989 to 1993.

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