APS-C or FF and other things
Jul 5, 2018 18:14:52 #
Longshadow wrote:
It was an example.
An example of what? You said I quoted an article and I didn't.
Jul 5, 2018 18:19:26 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
An example of what? You said I quoted an article and I didn't.
He did not say that I did. I said it because you did.
Jul 5, 2018 18:24:52 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
An example of what? You said I quoted an article and I didn't.
We seem to be passing by each other.
I didn't say you quoted an article.
Your comment was in reference to:
Apaflo wrote:
And that is exactly why those conditions are mentioned in the article you quoted.
In fact, even with the best equipment available that is the precise situation the OP is targeting (poorly illuminated school gymnasiums). And because that is the stated reason to upgrade there is no point in not carefully selecting the best match possible within the price range acceptable.
It would, as an example, a very poor choice to "upgrade" to any APS-C body... even though as many have suggested those cameras are quite wonderful for other purposes.
You replied to Apaflo:
I didn't quote any article, and I don't see where the OP mentioned poorly illuminated school gymnasiums.
I replied to that comment indicating that the gymnasium was an example, even though the OP didn't state that explicit location, many sports are in gymnasiums.
We should be in the same pew now.
Jul 5, 2018 18:26:20 #
Apaflo wrote:
He did not say that I did. I said it because you did.
Wish I could type faster.....
Jul 5, 2018 18:30:00 #
Longshadow wrote:
We seem to be passing by each other. br I didn't s... (show quote)
I thought it was Apaflo who answered that it was an example, because it seemed to be an answer to to my post to him. I don't know how the OP just mentioned sports, and that was supposed to mean a gymnasium. Many sports are not held in gyms. But I still never quoted any article.
Jul 5, 2018 18:46:15 #
DebDKusz
Loc: PA
JohnSwanda wrote:
I thought it was Apaflo who answered that it was an example, because it seemed to be an answer to to my post to him. I don't know how the OP just mentioned sports, and that was supposed to mean a gymnasium. Many sports are not held in gyms. But I still never quoted any article.
I just caused chaos and I’m sorry. My boys are active in soccer both indoor and outdoor but mostly outdoors.
Jul 5, 2018 18:47:13 #
DebDKusz wrote:
I just caused chaos and I’m sorry. My boys are active in soccer both indoor and outdoor but mostly outdoors.
No worries, it sometimes happens.
Jul 6, 2018 00:19:46 #
DebDKusz wrote:
I just caused chaos and I’m sorry. My boys are active in soccer both indoor and outdoor but mostly outdoors.
You didn't cause it!
Some folks are confused, thats all...
But you stated something like three active boys in school sports, and as both a great grandfather and a retired professionaI photographer I do have a very good perception of what you are going to do.
My own solution was a bit different as I have been shooting with the latest high end Nikon cameras since the D1 came out. Unless it pays the bills that is not a reasonable approach for the average parent. But it does provide an excellent baseline for suggestions that will fit into a given budget and actually meet your needs.
Jul 6, 2018 00:27:19 #
DebDKusz
Loc: PA
Naptown Gaijin wrote:
Linda gives some good advice, as usual. br br FIR... (show quote)
Thank you for the detailed info. I will look into this
Jul 6, 2018 00:36:09 #
DebDKusz wrote:
Thank you for the detailed info. I will look into this
Good info except the second item, which just is not correct except for almost suggesting an f/2.8 lens (which is actually very necessary).
You absolutely do not want the extra noise and reduced dynamic range of an APS-C body. And Nikon has had better sensors than Canon for well over a decade now.
Jul 6, 2018 05:52:44 #
Seriously consider the 6DmkII. I used my neighbours and was much impressed. I'll be getting one (Mrs. N. doesn't know yet so keep it a secret) but then I always wanted to go full frame one day anyway.
The 6DmkII is not much bigger than the 80D (90D rumoured to be released soon, possibly this Autumn) and a big saving on the 5D series. The 6Dmk1 is still available at a few places but many had issues with its focusing, mainly addressed with mk2.
The 6DmkII is not much bigger than the 80D (90D rumoured to be released soon, possibly this Autumn) and a big saving on the 5D series. The 6Dmk1 is still available at a few places but many had issues with its focusing, mainly addressed with mk2.
Jul 6, 2018 06:56:20 #
If you already have the Tamron 18-400, the 80D can make use of it better than the T3i for those soccer photos, but only during good daylight. My friend shot with the 70D and a 70-200 f2.8, and was able to do evening and night games, but the 18-400 at almost 3 stops less, would have resulted in either grainy or blurred pictures.
Jul 6, 2018 07:10:27 #
COLANN
Loc: Pahiatua Tararua New Zealand
Hi Linda. as far as i am concerned you talk so much sense re cameras, I also have the 600d, here in New Zealand with sim lenses as you, howerver as I am not a Bank. I cn not afford the top of the range gear, so I think for me to improve is to get a lens of 2.8 quality, as I am sure that if I did, it would improve my ability as a photographer, if I got a full frame with the top lenses[ no chance] i think it would be a utter waist of money, plus i would be a candidate for a divorce, I had thought of the Tamron 18-400 as a good walk about lens, but as it is not a 2.8.maybe I should hang on untill I can get a 2.8,
lastly thanks for all your advise on the hog, as I as a novice can only but learn for you ,and others. regards Colin
lastly thanks for all your advise on the hog, as I as a novice can only but learn for you ,and others. regards Colin
Jul 6, 2018 07:29:31 #
Funny, I was just reading a book that said APS-C is better for landscapes due to increased depth of field at 1 stop lower than would be possible with an FF. Same source said FF is better for portraits. However, I can attest to the fact that I get excellent results on my APS-C (70D) for both when using the right lenses. Specifically for the person who started this post, I have a T3i which has proven to be an excellent camera - some of my best photos were shot with this camera and I do mainly portraits of one kind or another. I upgraded to the 70D which is also wonderful. This has now been replaced with the 80D so I have no reason not to believe it's even better. From your comments, I don't think you need go to the expense of an FF. If you do decide to move up, have you considered the Canon 6D Mk II?
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PHRubin wrote:
Your first decision is APS-C or FF. Either will do... (show quote)
Jul 6, 2018 07:40:29 #
miked46
Loc: Winter Springs, Florida
I am in the same situation, but unless you are going to blow up many photo's, stick with APS-C, the IQ is very close, and there are still many lenses to choose from.
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