Buying roll paper and cutting
Jul 5, 2018 09:22:37 #
Looking at paper prices, roll paper seems to be about 1/2 the price of sheet paper.
Does anyone purchase roll paper and cut it into sheets for printing.
My printer the canon prograf 1000 only takes sheet paper. Canon does not make a roll paper feeder for this printer.
I was considering buying paper in 100’ rolls, building a rack to store it have a precision cutter and cutting it into sheets as I need.
It this a reasonable thought or or will it be a significant hassle relative to the cost savings?
Do any of you do this?
What is your experience?
And do you recommend doing it?
Does anyone purchase roll paper and cut it into sheets for printing.
My printer the canon prograf 1000 only takes sheet paper. Canon does not make a roll paper feeder for this printer.
I was considering buying paper in 100’ rolls, building a rack to store it have a precision cutter and cutting it into sheets as I need.
It this a reasonable thought or or will it be a significant hassle relative to the cost savings?
Do any of you do this?
What is your experience?
And do you recommend doing it?
Jul 5, 2018 09:26:30 #
ricardo7
Loc: Washington, DC - Santiago, Chile
I did it once, however the savings was not close to 50%. The problem
is the curl of the paper, especially as you get closer to the core. When
I figured that I really didn't need to save a few dollars I went back to
sheets.
is the curl of the paper, especially as you get closer to the core. When
I figured that I really didn't need to save a few dollars I went back to
sheets.
Jul 5, 2018 09:37:47 #
Yes, the problem is curl. Some printers do not like paper that is not perfectly flat. You may have to take a few sheets of your cut paper. Roll it up and let it sit rolled up for a few days. Then try a few sheets to see how it works. You may have to cut the whole roll up and flatten them under a few bricks before using. This curling was a major problem in the old darkroom days. Good Luck
Jul 5, 2018 12:05:20 #
I went to red river website.
An example is:
68lb Ultra Pro Gloss
17x22”, 50 sheets is $73.56
17x100’. Is $59.16
So a sheet is $1.47 per
A sheet cut from the roll is $0.80 per
Price difference is by the roll is 45.6% less per sheet than buying by the sheet
One or two sheets is not much but... every dollar I don’t spend is one less I have to earn.
Please keep responding, I am new to the printing side of the house and welcome information.
Thanks
An example is:
68lb Ultra Pro Gloss
17x22”, 50 sheets is $73.56
17x100’. Is $59.16
So a sheet is $1.47 per
A sheet cut from the roll is $0.80 per
Price difference is by the roll is 45.6% less per sheet than buying by the sheet
One or two sheets is not much but... every dollar I don’t spend is one less I have to earn.
Please keep responding, I am new to the printing side of the house and welcome information.
Thanks
Jul 5, 2018 12:33:47 #
ricardo7
Loc: Washington, DC - Santiago, Chile
lcfarms wrote:
I went to red river website. br br An example is:... (show quote)
Minor error I believe.
17" x 100' = 17" x 1200"
1200" / 22" = 54 sheets
54 sheets for $59.16 = $1.09 per sheet.
Still a savings, but there is is going to be a lot of curl in the last 10 sheets.
Jul 5, 2018 12:48:21 #
I have done what you are asking about with inkjet paper. My printer takes rolls so works great, but when I tried to do smaller jobs and did not want to switch out the roll mounted it was a big PITA!. You need a good paper cutter that can keep square dimensions, this is no place for scissors. I have all the right equipment, pro grade, and it is still a pain. I recommend to buy the sheet already cut and save the aggravation! Inkjet has the pitfalls that others already mentioned. One more to add to the misery: handling a cut from roll sheet can result in a dimple or slight crease when trying to uncurl. It looks like nothing to worry about, but can mess when printing. Been there done that!
Jul 5, 2018 16:13:25 #
Jul 5, 2018 16:17:25 #
The only way I could see this being practical would be to cut 50, 100, or the entire roll at one time. The store the paper flat.
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Jul 5, 2018 18:31:31 #
lcfarms wrote:
Looking at paper prices, roll paper seems to be ab... (show quote)
I buy roll paper all the time. But my printer has roll feed and it cuts the paper automatically after the print is made. If you are trying to save $$$ I suppose the roll paper will work in a non-roll feed printer, but the curl would make me crazy.
Jul 6, 2018 05:59:14 #
Sounds to me, the cost savings is not worth the hassle.
I am curious, with roll feed printers, what keeps the print from curling when it comes out of the printer?
I am curious, with roll feed printers, what keeps the print from curling when it comes out of the printer?
Jul 6, 2018 07:28:05 #
lcfarms wrote:
Sounds to me, the cost savings is not worth the hassle.
I am curious, with roll feed printers, what keeps the print from curling when it comes out of the printer?
I am curious, with roll feed printers, what keeps the print from curling when it comes out of the printer?
Nothing, they still do, and as it gets to the end of the roll it gets worse. Satin paper curls worse that matte paper also.
Jul 6, 2018 10:00:01 #
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Jul 6, 2018 12:37:20 #
lcfarms wrote:
I do buy rolls for the widest size my printer can print (which is only 17') and 22" is the longest that can be had for sheat size. If I want to print longer, I do have to use rolls and cut them to the length I want. It is easy to do and I don't mind doing it!Looking at paper prices, roll paper seems to be ab... (show quote)
Jul 6, 2018 15:08:37 #
lcfarms wrote:
Looking at paper prices, roll paper seems to be ab... (show quote)
Roll paper is very difficult to cut to size unless you have a professional "sheeter" — a cutter made to do that. It works best on the higher end inkjet printers (17" throats and wider).
I wouldn't fool with it UNLESS you use a roll-fed printer. You'll waste so much, trying to trim it, that you won't save anything, *and* you'll have something else in the way, *and* you'll lose the opportunity to do other things while you're now cutting paper instead.
I ran the digital printing departments of a portrait photo lab for five years. We had two roll-fed Epsons, a 17" and a 44". They ran almost continuously, so we bought all our paper in rolls. The printers had integral cutters, so we had no issues with trimming unless we used a partial width. This followed the same paradigm as the mini-labs we used. Those were fed from 500 to 550 foot rolls of 4, 5, 8, 10, and 12 inch paper. After exposure, the paper was cut and then processed automatically. With inkjet printers, the print is made first, then cut off the end of the paper.
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