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Jun 29, 2018 20:49:22   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
ncammack wrote:
Hello all,

Being new on the forum I really don't want to stir up a hornet's nest but I have to ask; Post Processing, yes or no? If yes, what program(s) do you use. If no, I'm curious as to why not. To be honest, I do some post processing using GIMP, Dark Table, and Luminance HDR. Not always, but when I feel that a little punch up will turn a good shot into a great one.


Not a hornet's nest I should think. I look at it as being each photographer's personal preference. For example, I shoot jpgs. Several Hugs have chastised me for doing so ("you should only shoot RAW") but for me, part of the fun of photography is the challenge of trying to get the SOOC to be exactly what I want the shot to be, just like when I shot film (only Slides). Almost unquestionably, every photo taken can be "improved" with some PP work. I know that, and I do "tweek" many of my shots in Nikon Capture or Photoshop. But only you know what you want to accomplish with your photography. Ansel Adams spent hours in the darkroom "burning-and-dodging." Most folks don't fault him for that.

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Jun 29, 2018 21:01:06   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
Charles 46277 wrote:
So what is the alternative--pre-processing?


Ha! Those 0s and1s can make a very pretty pattern.

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Jun 29, 2018 21:14:18   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Charles 46277 wrote:
So what is the alternative--pre-processing?


Yes, getting it 100% right in the camera, no post processing required.
(Will never happen for me!)

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Jun 29, 2018 21:17:50   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
Photocraig wrote:
Andy,
You make a good observation. The machine developer/printer systems for COlor Prints (C41) actually adjusted exposure and some color balance. We do that in camera with the Camera Picture Style parameters. Or we capture RAW files and make adjustments "as we see fit" using our favorite PP software.

In the film days, people walked out of the drug store, or wherever, with "processed images." As they should have. A photo without processing is like a burger without seasoning. Incomplete, and unnecessarily so. Photography always was and still is a process. Part in camera and part in final production (developing) and printing. Just as film could be over processed, so, too can Digital--only it is easier. But because somebody makes photos that look like (i'm told) they're on an Acid Trip doesn't mean that Post Processing is bad. ALL photos are processed. Today, we have an easy, clean, and less smelly way to do it ourselves. Neglecting to do so means neglecting to finish the job.
C
Andy, br You make a good observation. The machine ... (show quote)


Yes to this. Ansel would be proud. But if he were alive, would he choose Adobe, DXO, or GIMP?

I’ve no doubt that he’d have an opinion, and a strong one.

Andy

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Jun 29, 2018 21:18:18   #
SonyA580 Loc: FL in the winter & MN in the summer
 
Always PP. Use Sony Image Data Converter and PhotoShop.

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Jun 29, 2018 21:31:00   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
Yes to post processing. Both my Nikon bodies have two mem slots. I set one up for high quality raw and the other for high quality jpg. Another vote for Lightroom and Photoshop for post processing. It's $10 / month, but well worth it. Very large library of training materials, not only from Adobe, but also from several different youtube channels. If it can be done, it can be done in Lightroom and Photoshop.

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Jun 29, 2018 21:33:23   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Always (I shoot raw) using Lightroom and Photoshop.

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Jun 29, 2018 22:20:57   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Absolutely yes.
Start with Lightroom/Photoshop.
Agree 100 Percent

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Jun 29, 2018 22:54:46   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Longshadow wrote:
Yes, getting it 100% right in the camera, no post processing required.
(Will never happen for me!)


100% incorrect

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Jun 29, 2018 23:48:13   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
cameraf4 wrote:
Not a hornet's nest I should think. I look at it as being each photographer's personal preference. For example, I shoot jpgs. Several Hugs have chastised me for doing so ("you should only shoot RAW") but for me, part of the fun of photography is the challenge of trying to get the SOOC to be exactly what I want the shot to be, just like when I shot film (only Slides). Almost unquestionably, every photo taken can be "improved" with some PP work. I know that, and I do "tweek" many of my shots in Nikon Capture or Photoshop. But only you know what you want to accomplish with your photography. Ansel Adams spent hours in the darkroom "burning-and-dodging." Most folks don't fault him for that.
Not a hornet's nest I should think. I look at it a... (show quote)


Was there a question in there?

I shoot jpeg a lot. For various reasons some of which you have cited. Personally I hate having to sit behind a computer and process images and JPEG format saves me from that. But getting exposure right in the camera is more important with JPEG. It is also good practice. If I can nail a jpeg exposure then when I shoot raw it will also be good. And I shoot in raw format when it is warranted. That is me. See my SmugMug website for some examples if you like (beware most, but not all, were shot in jpeg format).

There are many variations of what format to shoot. JPEG, RAW, ETTR, beyond ETTR. There is no absolute right answer. Much depends on the venue and the photographer.

Do what works for you, do what you enjoy. Most of all have fun.

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Jun 30, 2018 03:53:04   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Yes. Paint Shop Pro and Photoshop Express.

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Jun 30, 2018 05:55:37   #
Griff Loc: Warwick U.K.
 
It is all down to taste.
The hardest thing to decide is contrast/ brightness. Do you go for 'correct' or the combination that affects the viewer as you wish?
PaintShopPro; and Faststone, for a quick fix.

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Jun 30, 2018 06:05:28   #
Griff Loc: Warwick U.K.
 
In my previous post I realise that I was probably talking about a digital equivalent of the Zone System. . .

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Jun 30, 2018 06:14:39   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
Alternative, shoot in JPEG and post process in camera (I know most Nikon cameras can) then it is straight out of camera.

Charles 46277 wrote:
So what is the alternative--pre-processing?

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Jun 30, 2018 06:42:22   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
tdekany wrote:
100% incorrect


What is pre-processing then?

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