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Jul 25, 2012 10:39:26   #
dirty dave
 
I have notice that sometimes I will post a photo and I will get good coments and then critical ones. Sometimes I wonder if everyone is seeing the same thing. Last year I sent some wedding pics to a bride that looked flat and even out of focus on her computer. but the prints and my computer they were great. She was very pleased with the prints but we could never fiqure out why they showed up so bad on her computer. Does anyone know if this is a problem with different computers and monitors? I will admit that I had to relearn everything after going from film to digital and to be honest I really don't know as much about the computer as my grandkids.

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Jul 25, 2012 13:03:30   #
joe west Loc: Taylor, Michigan
 
if your cust. has win 7, they can calibrate there monitor,
i dont know about other operating systems

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Jul 25, 2012 22:01:16   #
Sheila Loc: Arizona or New York
 
Could be several reasons. What equipment do they have compared to yours? Is their equipment using an older operating system? What is the resolution they are using on their monitor? Most people don't profile their computer monitors for color.

The next time you go to a store with a variety of tvs take a look at the differences in the pictures including the colors. Computer monitors have the same problems and if they are old, not adjusted properly or of poor quality they will not show your work the way you see it on your monitor.

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Jul 26, 2012 13:02:50   #
FOTOSTAN Loc: Ca..NYC..Fla.
 
Sheila wrote:
Could be several reasons. What equipment do they have compared to yours? Is their equipment using an older operating system? What is the resolution they are using on their monitor? Most people don't profile their computer monitors for color.

The next time you go to a store with a variety of tvs take a look at the differences in the pictures including the colors. Computer monitors have the same problems and if they are old, not adjusted properly or of poor quality they will not show your work the way you see it on your monitor.
Could be several reasons. What equipment do they ... (show quote)


Good answer ..

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Jul 26, 2012 14:38:24   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
I have several times suggested to my CClub that we have a standard photo of paint chips. we could all have the same photo that worked well with the projection-equip and the light view box. used by the camera club. We could probably order a batch of chips for free so every one would have the same subject chips.

The paint color on those chips that we all had at home and the photos of the chips taken with our own equipment could be adjusted to look like the Photo Club standard. Old adage "standardize as you analyze." Too often my look great at home photos were too dark or too light or off color once projected or viewed on C Club equipment. After all, that is where they are judged...

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Jul 26, 2012 14:39:16   #
norman1312 Loc: London, UK
 
What kind of monitor do they have? I found exactly the same problem between when I viewed my photos on a flatscreen monitor (of any kind), and an 'old style' CRT screen.
The results on the CRT ALWAYS looked terrible!

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Jul 26, 2012 16:31:24   #
marcomarks Loc: Ft. Myers, FL
 
dpullum wrote:
I have several times suggested to my CClub that we have a standard photo of paint chips. we could all have the same photo that worked well with the projection-equip and the light view box. used by the camera club. We could probably order a batch of chips for free so every one would have the same subject chips.

The paint color on those chips that we all had at home and the photos of the chips taken with our own equipment could be adjusted to look like the Photo Club standard. Old adage "standardize as you analyze." Too often my look great at home photos were too dark or too light or off color once projected or viewed on C Club equipment. After all, that is where they are judged...
I have several times suggested to my CClub that we... (show quote)


Go to Home Depot or Lowe's and get several color strip chips of the basic colors for free. No reason to order anything!

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Jul 26, 2012 16:38:47   #
marcomarks Loc: Ft. Myers, FL
 
dirty dave wrote:
I have notice that sometimes I will post a photo and I will get good coments and then critical ones. Sometimes I wonder if everyone is seeing the same thing. Last year I sent some wedding pics to a bride that looked flat and even out of focus on her computer. but the prints and my computer they were great. She was very pleased with the prints but we could never fiqure out why they showed up so bad on her computer. Does anyone know if this is a problem with different computers and monitors? I will admit that I had to relearn everything after going from film to digital and to be honest I really don't know as much about the computer as my grandkids.
I have notice that sometimes I will post a photo a... (show quote)


If everything was good on yours, your prints came out as you expected, and they were pleased with your prints, then whatever's wrong with her computer isn't your problem. As others have said, they may have poor resolution, a sickly old tube monitor instead of LCD, a coating of grease on their screen, a lame video card, kids have twisted her monitor controls up to play games, or many other things. You can only standardize your system from one end to the other to have it display and print what you expect to see. That's all you can do.

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Jul 26, 2012 18:14:15   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
MarcoMarks replied to my suggestion recarding color chips'

Go to Home Depot or Lowe's and get several color strip chips of the basic colors for free. No reason to order anything!

You got the message MarcoMarks, my reference to ordering was that we have a big club and want them all to match. Surly I would not expect the paint company to charge any thing for such free advertising.... Otherwise, MarcoMarks, did you like the idea... any suggestions. (Beyond buying a spyder etc. My budget squeeks)

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Jul 27, 2012 01:10:22   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
dirty dave wrote:
I have notice that sometimes I will post a photo and I will get good coments and then critical ones. Sometimes I wonder if everyone is seeing the same thing. Last year I sent some wedding pics to a bride that looked flat and even out of focus on her computer. but the prints and my computer they were great. She was very pleased with the prints but we could never fiqure out why they showed up so bad on her computer. Does anyone know if this is a problem with different computers and monitors? I will admit that I had to relearn everything after going from film to digital and to be honest I really don't know as much about the computer as my grandkids.
I have notice that sometimes I will post a photo a... (show quote)


It's probably the color space you save the image in. When you save the images or give images to other people, the safest color space to use is sRGB. If you use AdobeRGB color space and burned to disk then on most computers they will not look right. If you used a print lab to print the images for the bride and you 'enhanced color' or 'color correction' settings, the pictures will usually not look exactly as they did on your computer, but they usually look ok or will be a little over saturated. Try posting one of the 'exact' images that you gave to the bride and check the (store original) box.

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Jul 27, 2012 12:02:40   #
ephraim Imperio
 
Does she have the same browser as you do? As far as I know only Safari and Firefox are the only color aware browsers that can read color properly. I don't think chrome or internet explorer does. Here is a tutorial to see if your browser is color aware.

http://www.gballard.net/psd/go_live_page_profile/embeddedJPEGprofiles.html

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Jul 27, 2012 14:50:34   #
marcomarks Loc: Ft. Myers, FL
 
dpullum wrote:
MarcoMarks replied to my suggestion recarding color chips'

Go to Home Depot or Lowe's and get several color strip chips of the basic colors for free. No reason to order anything!

You got the message MarcoMarks, my reference to ordering was that we have a big club and want them all to match. Surly I would not expect the paint company to charge any thing for such free advertising.... Otherwise, MarcoMarks, did you like the idea... any suggestions. (Beyond buying a spyder etc. My budget squeeks)
MarcoMarks replied to my suggestion recarding colo... (show quote)


I always like a cheap alternative that works and the idea seems sound. The cards are very standardized digitally, even the luster level, so everybody would have exactly the same reference points if their cards are all the same age.

After replying to you, last night there was a "How It's Made" show on cable and one of the segments was about those very same paint company sample cards.

The factory they were at (I saw Valspar on some of the 55 gallon drums) makes 3.5 million of those cards PER DAY. The paint on the cards is enamel, not the real wall paints that are sold, because latex would soak into the card material and change the result. My only question would be whether the sample cards would change if constantly exposed to sunlight, thus the perfect references would start to vary among members. I suppose replacing them once a year would resolve that though.

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