Scum Rises to the Top
Jun 15, 2018 20:51:09 #
No, I'm not talking about the FBI. I'm talking about ink jet printer ink.
Or to be more accurate I should say, scum forms on the top of the ink. It's a reaction of the ink to the air.
The OEM ink makers must know this and have taken steps to hermetically seal and protect their cartridges from clogging their printers. When you buy 3rd party inks you risk far more scum forming based on the way they are filled and because it's not as much in their interest to care about your printer heads as Epson, let's say.
Or to be more accurate I should say, scum forms on the top of the ink. It's a reaction of the ink to the air.
The OEM ink makers must know this and have taken steps to hermetically seal and protect their cartridges from clogging their printers. When you buy 3rd party inks you risk far more scum forming based on the way they are filled and because it's not as much in their interest to care about your printer heads as Epson, let's say.
Jun 15, 2018 21:27:54 #
I worked in an office that decided they'd save a few bucks by purchasing 3rd party ink. Mess doesn't even come close to describing what the inside of that printer looked like after the second sheet of paper went through it. This was a high dollar printer too. It cost an incredible amount of money for an OEM tech to come out and clean the mess and get it working again. The advice was always use OEM ink.
--Bob
--Bob
Fotoartist wrote:
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Jun 15, 2018 21:34:24 #
I tried it once. After a few prints it clogged up and didn't work anymore. That was enough experience with aftermarket inks for me.
Jun 15, 2018 22:07:35 #
josquin1
Loc: Massachusetts
Glad to read of these experiences as they reinforce my decision to not use 3rd party inks no matter how tempting the price is.
Jun 15, 2018 22:13:58 #
Just FYI survey of one, but been buying 3rd party ink cartridges (and toner cartridges) for over 25 years - went through 100s & 100s during my career - and only had 1-2 not give me full service. Have never had any more clogging or cleaning problems than OEM products. Of course I buy from well established companies but love the 1/2 to 1/3 price over OEM and normally get more product in them.
Jun 15, 2018 22:42:57 #
3rd party ink is probably just as good in many other ways if you could only keep the scum from forming at the top. Not to get political again (Comey).
Jun 15, 2018 23:23:24 #
Fotoartist wrote:
3rd party ink is probably just as good in many other ways if you could only keep the scum from forming at the top. Not to get political again (Comey).
Huh??????
I have been refilling my cartridges with Precision Colors for nearly 3 years now and have never seen any "scum" in my cartridges (they are transparent Canon OEM modified & cleaned to be refilled).
I have never had a clogged head or other problem either.
The colors are great.
Jun 16, 2018 01:28:32 #
Fotoartist wrote:
3rd party ink is probably just as good in many other ways if you could only keep the scum from forming at the top. Not to get political again (Comey).
If you wish to make political comments, Comey isn't the top. Another individual holds that position. Perhaps we should keep politics to the attic.
Jun 16, 2018 05:58:54 #
Fotoartist "The OEM ink makers must know this and have taken steps to hermetically seal and protect their cartridges from clogging their printers" . Unless you have to remove a plug when you want to print the cartridge cannot be sealed. If the sealing tape used for transport is not removed from the cartridge air cannot get in and the ink cannot be ejected. Thus that colour will not print. ALL printer cartridges are open to atmosphere in order to work. No difference who makes or supplies them.
Any persistence in using any cartridge with the sealing tape still in place can damage the cartridge or worse it can damage the printhead. Cartridges cannot be sealed.
Any persistence in using any cartridge with the sealing tape still in place can damage the cartridge or worse it can damage the printhead. Cartridges cannot be sealed.
Jun 16, 2018 06:04:09 #
Fotoartist wrote:
No, I'm not talking about the FBI. I'm talking abo... (show quote)
I've found that it's a crap shoot using third party ink, but the cost difference is huge. Amazon is selling five Canon cartridges for $23, while Canon was selling one for $22. I've never had a mess or damage problem with third party ink, but I have had ink that was off-color or simply did not work. Still, at that low price, you can afford to try several. I find it hard to spend $75 for ink when I can get it for $20.
Jun 16, 2018 06:09:26 #
sueyeisert
Loc: New Jersey
Fotoartist wrote:
No, I'm not talking about the FBI. I'm talking abo... (show quote)
Why are you making political comments here. Take them to the attic! Boy could I comment about scum.
Jun 16, 2018 06:17:59 #
jerryc41 Bravo!!! You have summed it up exactly right. Compatible cartridges and ultra cheap inks seldom get the colours matched precisely. Buying replacement inks from a reliable source that supplies color matched inks gives results that are no different from OEM supplies. That is apart from the price. Careful selection of paper supplies has the same advantages.
Jun 16, 2018 06:26:56 #
I've used 3rd party inks for a very long time and only had one problem.
It was a cyan cartridge and was overfilled and the outlet cover was not put on right so it leaked into the sealed plastic package it came in.
I complained and I was sent an OK replacement.
When I ran out of cyan I re-looked at the faulty one, cleaned it up and it worked perfectly.
The colour quality is as good as OEM.
The only time I use OEM cartridges is during the printers warranty period, just in case.
It was a cyan cartridge and was overfilled and the outlet cover was not put on right so it leaked into the sealed plastic package it came in.
I complained and I was sent an OK replacement.
When I ran out of cyan I re-looked at the faulty one, cleaned it up and it worked perfectly.
The colour quality is as good as OEM.
The only time I use OEM cartridges is during the printers warranty period, just in case.
Jun 16, 2018 06:27:02 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Fotoartist wrote:
No, I'm not talking about the FBI. I'm talking abo... (show quote)
First point, your reference and insinuation about the FBI is offensive, my two sons both work for them after military assignments and it is a fine bureau and I do not find your comment nice. AT ALL. Even if you were trying to be funny.
Second, 3rd party anything cannot compare to OEM anything. Same with batteries, camera lenses, almost everything third hand cannot play on the first string team.
Jun 16, 2018 06:28:11 #
Fotoartist wrote:
3rd party ink is probably just as good in many other ways if you could only keep the scum from forming at the top. Not to get political again (Comey).
Been using third party ink in my Canon Printer for years, no problem. threw my HP in the garbage.
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