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Jun 8, 2018 16:19:05   #
Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
As an Example, my Nikon D850 set at 1/4000 (manual mode), the next jump is 1/5000. Why can I not choice 1/4500 or 1/4250, as an example? I was under the impression that manual meant manual? Am I missing a step regarding this category?

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Jun 8, 2018 16:23:58   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
If those speeds are not available in other modes, then they won't be available in manual either.
Feiertag wrote:
As an Example, my Nikon D850 set at 1/4000 (manual mode), the next jump is 1/5000. Why can I not choice 1/4500 or 1/4250, as an example? I was under the impression that manual meant manual? Am I missing a step regarding this category?

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Jun 8, 2018 16:29:22   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Feiertag wrote:
As an Example, my Nikon D850 set at 1/4000 (manual mode), the next jump is 1/5000. Why can I not choice 1/4500 or 1/4250, as an example? I was under the impression that manual meant manual? Am I missing a step regarding this category?

I think the closest you can get are 1/3 stop increments.
I doubt if you could see the difference between 1/4000 and 1/4250 without a meauring device.
it may actually be giving you 1/4250, probably within the accepted tolerance.

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Jun 8, 2018 16:36:51   #
BebuLamar
 
Feiertag wrote:
As an Example, my Nikon D850 set at 1/4000 (manual mode), the next jump is 1/5000. Why can I not choice 1/4500 or 1/4250, as an example? I was under the impression that manual meant manual? Am I missing a step regarding this category?


The camera set shutter speed, aperture, ISO and exposure compensation in steps. The steps are 1/3 stop apart. You can not set any of these parameter continuously. A few of the old cameras like the Nikon F2 you can set the shutter speed steplessly from 1/80 to 1/2000. Aperture on older camera setting via aperture ring can be set steplessly.
But I am surprised that you asked because I thought everybody knows this.
If they made it so you can set any shutter speed you want it would be very difficult to set it unless you use a keypad which is quite slow.

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Jun 8, 2018 16:39:56   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Yeah, if all cameras had an electronically controlled shutter, those speeds might have been possible.

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Jun 8, 2018 17:00:44   #
BebuLamar
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Yeah, if all cameras had an electronically controlled shutter, those speeds might have been possible.


In fact the ones that the speed can be set manually and steplessly have mechanical controlled shutter. All cameras now (except a few) have electronically controlled shutter but can only be set in 1/3 stop steps.

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Jun 8, 2018 17:34:54   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Feiertag wrote:
As an Example, my Nikon D850 set at 1/4000 (manual mode), the next jump is 1/5000. Why can I not choice 1/4500 or 1/4250, as an example? I was under the impression that manual meant manual? Am I missing a step regarding this category?
Sounds to me, you need to read about exposure and how it all works, what all is needed to get an appropriate exposure. That will clarify your questions about shutter speed as well, as it is part of the exposure. There are only so many to choose from and for a reason!

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Jun 8, 2018 17:52:45   #
Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
BebuLamar wrote:
The camera set shutter speed, aperture, ISO and exposure compensation in steps. The steps are 1/3 stop apart. You can not set any of these parameter continuously. A few of the old cameras like the Nikon F2 you can set the shutter speed steplessly from 1/80 to 1/2000. Aperture on older camera setting via aperture ring can be set steplessly.
But I am surprised that you asked because I thought everybody knows this.
If they made it so you can set any shutter speed you want it would be very difficult to set it unless you use a keypad which is quite slow.
The camera set shutter speed, aperture, ISO and ex... (show quote)


You thought everyone knew this? What gave you that impression?

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Jun 8, 2018 18:02:04   #
Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
speters wrote:
Sounds to me, you need to read about exposure and how it all works, what all is needed to get an appropriate exposure. That will clarify your questions about shutter speed as well, as it is part of the exposure. There are only so many to choose from and for a reason!
You missed the point. I know all about getting the right exposure. Your comment doesn't clarify anything.

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Jun 8, 2018 19:33:16   #
BebuLamar
 
Feiertag wrote:
You thought everyone knew this? What gave you that impression?


Because back when cameras are all manual the shutter speed settings are in whole stop increments for most cameras. Modern cameras allow for 1/3 stop increments. I think anyone who ever use a camera would know that. I think most also know which are the values that can be set on their cameras as well.

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Jun 9, 2018 06:31:56   #
Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Because back when cameras are all manual the shutter speed settings are in whole stop increments for most cameras. Modern cameras allow for 1/3 stop increments. I think anyone who ever use a camera would know that. I think most also know which are the values that can be set on their cameras as well.


Thank you for your comment.

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Jun 9, 2018 07:16:59   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Most likely the majority of people couldn't see the difference in anything less than a 1/3 stop change. A good number of those that can probably post process where even a JPG has that much wiggle room.

On the flip side, more people would probably be confused by the extra options than would benefit. UHH would be flooded with topics like "Should I use 1/253 or one 1/257 when taking a picture of my mother-in-law on our upcoming trip to the Grand Canyon, or should I leave her home?"

Writers of course could fill pages with the benefits and consequences, and what cameras are more accurate.

IMHO

Seriously, how accurate are todays shutters with 1/3 second increments?

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Jun 9, 2018 07:38:40   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Feiertag wrote:
As an Example, my Nikon D850 set at 1/4000 (manual mode), the next jump is 1/5000. Why can I not choice 1/4500 or 1/4250, as an example? I was under the impression that manual meant manual? Am I missing a step regarding this category?


Would that really make a difference? The timescales are really, really small, and the change from 1/4500 to 1/4250 is probably not a practical feature to include in such an inexpensive piece of equipment.

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Jun 9, 2018 07:39:02   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Bill_de wrote:
Seriously, how accurate are todays shutters with 1/3 second increments?

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Jun 9, 2018 07:50:03   #
garygrafic Loc: South Florida
 
Yes, you are missing a step, manual means being able to choose from indicated shutter speeds combined your selection of aperture based on your interpretation of the meter reading. Whew! Did I get all that correct and clear?

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