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Jun 5, 2018 12:58:51   #
seagull5
 
David thank you I will stay with a RX10m4'''If I stayed with my wifes opinion. I would come up with no opinion....no camera. Her quote from the masters of knowledge is...How many cameras can you shoot. My answer is as many cameras as I can afford that give me pleasure.....thank you all for making some sense of my self confusion

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Jun 5, 2018 13:03:31   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
seagull5 wrote:
I have been running around in my mind. A back up camera. I go over the spechs over again and wanting the same speech's. I have found the RX10M4 to give me alot more than I ask and it gifts me well. I have been on the phone with B and M, Canon Tech. Sony tech. Any good suggesation to where I can go. I realize that This is expensive I have given it too much thought.. The RX has been great...I couldn`t ask for more,,,Maybe a short yes or no and a short explination...This may be a foolish question....but It I don`t ask I may not get assistance. Thank you I will try to not feel foolish
I have been running around in my mind. A back up c... (show quote)


I apologize for being somewhat snarky in my earlier comment. I really did think you were translating from another language at first, but my response was obviously not a kind one.

As others have said, you have not given enough information for others to post constructive advice. And you've gotten a number of responses much meaner than mine. In an effort to understand where you're coming from, I read a number of your previous posts on this forum.

So I have two suggestions - which you can disregard or not as you wish.

1) If you enjoy getting a lot of responses, and maybe even the negative attention, your current style is working quite well.


2) If you really want advice, it might be better to think carefully about the actual question you're asking, write things out a little more slowly - reading them out loud back to yourself, and proofread your post before throwing it out there. If you had said something more clearly in the original post, you might have received more helpful advice.


Best wishes, and I promise not to be snarky to you in the future.


Andy

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Jun 5, 2018 14:13:57   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
bbrowner wrote:
If you want a clear cut YES or NO answer... please give us a clear cut... simple... question.

Remember... you reap what you sew.


You've got me in stitches with your response . . .

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Jun 5, 2018 14:23:02   #
tomcat
 
Gene51 wrote:
You've got me in stitches with your response . . .


That happens with these threads. Just don’t needle me

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Jun 5, 2018 15:22:19   #
TonyL Loc: Coventry, UK
 
Very expensive for a bridge camera; however it is undoubtedly good. Have you considered the Panasonic FZ2500? She who must be obeyed should have the final say!
seagull5 wrote:
I have been running around in my mind. A back up camera. I go over the spechs over again and wanting the same speech's. I have found the RX10M4 to give me alot more than I ask and it gifts me well. I have been on the phone with B and M, Canon Tech. Sony tech. Any good suggesation to where I can go. I realize that This is expensive I have given it too much thought.. The RX has been great...I couldn`t ask for more,,,Maybe a short yes or no and a short explination...This may be a foolish question....but It I don`t ask I may not get assistance. Thank you I will try to not feel foolish
I have been running around in my mind. A back up c... (show quote)

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Jun 5, 2018 16:03:22   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Next time I have a question, I think I'm going to ask it in as confusing and incomplete manner as possible... because that ALWAYS gets a great response here (Some response is snarky. But, hey, that sometimes happens anyway... regardless how clearly you ask).

As I understand it, you are asking if you "need" a second camera... I am not entirely sure if you are thinking of an upgrade, or actually using two cameras or are thinking of having a 2nd camera on hand in case your 1st one breaks.

Working with the info we've gleaned from your post (which doesn't actually ask a question, BTW), the only possible answer is... "It depends".

We can't offer opinions "Yes" or "No", because we just don't have enough info to make a reasonable judgment.

Do you feel the camera you've got isn't adequately accomplishing something you'd like it to be able to do?

Google tells me the "RX10M4" is some sort of Sony. And dpreview.com has a review of a DCS RX10 IV. Is that the same camera? If so, it's a bridge camera... non-interchangeable lens, extreme zoom range (equivalent to 24mm to 600mm on full frame/film) using a CX format (1") 20MP sensor. (The actual focal length of the Zeiss zoom lens is 8.8mm to 220mm, but these are "exaggerated" by the smaller size sensor. Regardless, it's a 25X zoom, which is pretty extreme!)

But what do you want to do with your camera? Are you shooting sports? Wildlife? Portraits? Landscapes? Family photos? Close-ups/macro? Or ???

And what do you do or want to be able to do with your images? Only share them digitally online? Make small prints up to around 8x10"? Make large prints 13x19", 16x24" or bigger?

Are you shooting as a hobby? Or are you wanting to "go pro"?

A DSLR or MILC (mirrorless interchangeable lens camera) would give you more versatility, being able to change lenses for different situations. Prime lenses (instead of zooms) or much less extreme range zooms will generally make for better image quality too (less distortions, better sharpness and fine detail, better controlled chromatic aberration and more). DSLR and MILC also use larger sensors that make for better image quality and/or higher resolution. CX/1" sensors like the DCS RX10 IV uses measures 13.2mm x 8.8mm. This gives a total area of 116 square millimeters... which means a sensor producing a 20 million pixel image has over 172,000 individual pixels per square mm. Compare that to a so-called APS-C sensor commonly used in DSLRs and MILC, which are about 23.6mm x 15.6mm,with total area of roughly 368 mm sq. (there's actually some slight variation... between 330 and 370 mm sq.)... where a 24MP image means around 65,000 individual pixel sites per mm sq. Or, there are "full frame" DSLR and MILC with 36mm x 24mm sensors, about 864 mm sq., where a 30MP image results in around 35,000 individual pixel sites per mm sq.

Less crowded sensor with larger pixel sites make for greater fine detail in images, as well as less "noise" in images made at higher ISOs (caused in large part by heat gain and "crosstalk" between crowded pixels). The larger sensors allow higher ISOs to be used, so that you can keep shooting even in lower light conditions.

But we don't know from your question if any of these things are a concern to you.... or even if you are just asking if a 2nd camera would be a good idea to have with you, in case the first one fails for some reason. Or if you have another reason for thinking you might need a 2nd camera...

Just for example, I shoot a lot of sports with a couple identical 20MP APS-C DSLRs. I use two so that I can set them up with different lenses... such as a 100-400mm on one an a 24-70mm on the other... then can switch back and forth quickly, as needed. This also means less need to change lenses, since I often have to shoot in dusty conditions. I also have two more APS-C cameras as backups, just in case something happens.

For other types of photography, I use a 21MP full frame DSLR. It's great for landscape and architecture. I also like using it for portraits and macro photography.

Those DSLRs and many of the lenses I use on them are fairly big and heavy. For travel and more casual uses I've considered getting a smaller, lighter MILC and a few lenses to use on it. (A MILC would also allow me to use some vintage lenses I have in my collection, via simple adapters. Right now I have to use those on film cameras, then scan the film if I want to work with it digitally.) Right now I have a couple old non-interchangeable lens, compact "point n shoot" digital that I tuck into a backpack pocket. Image quality of those and other things are quite limited, though. Your much newer bridge camera is bound to be more versatile than my P&S, but less capable than my DSLRs.

But these are examples of what works for me... gear that meets my photography needs. It's probably quite different for you. But we would need to know more, before we could make any suggestions.

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Jun 5, 2018 16:08:09   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
dave_roe wrote:
You want a solid answer.... ask the wife!


wives always say no and glad I don't have one

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Jun 5, 2018 16:08:45   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Winslowe wrote:
B and M? What car are you going to put the transmission in?


Bowel and Movement?

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Jun 5, 2018 16:10:48   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
seagull5 wrote:
I have been running around in my mind. A back up camera. I go over the spechs over again and wanting the same speech's. I have found the RX10M4 to give me alot more than I ask and it gifts me well. I have been on the phone with B and M, Canon Tech. Sony tech. Any good suggesation to where I can go. I realize that This is expensive I have given it too much thought.. The RX has been great...I couldn`t ask for more,,,Maybe a short yes or no and a short explination...This may be a foolish question....but It I don`t ask I may not get assistance. Thank you I will try to not feel foolish
I have been running around in my mind. A back up c... (show quote)


Are you a professional photographer? If so, then yes. Otherwise, ask a real question.

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Jun 5, 2018 16:22:21   #
lowkick Loc: Connecticut
 
Winslowe wrote:
B and M? What car are you going to put the transmission in?



apparently, he was interested in baked beans.

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Jun 5, 2018 16:28:55   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
seagull5 wrote:
I have been running around in my mind. A back up camera. I go over the spechs over again and wanting the same speech's. I have found the RX10M4 to give me alot more than I ask and it gifts me well. I have been on the phone with B and M, Canon Tech. Sony tech. Any good suggesation to where I can go. I realize that This is expensive I have given it too much thought.. The RX has been great...I couldn`t ask for more,,,Maybe a short yes or no and a short explination...This may be a foolish question....but It I don`t ask I may not get assistance. Thank you I will try to not feel foolish
I have been running around in my mind. A back up c... (show quote)


If you "couldn't ask for more", you should stick with what you have until you find you need more.

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Jun 5, 2018 16:46:57   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
cdayton wrote:
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Jun 5, 2018 17:26:40   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
tomcat wrote:
That happens with these threads. Just don’t needle me


Ok I get your point . . .

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Jun 5, 2018 17:41:30   #
tomcat
 
Gene51 wrote:
Ok I get your point . . .



I surrender. I'm out of jabs.

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Jun 5, 2018 18:21:23   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
tomcat wrote:
I surrender. I'm out of jabs.


It seams sew.

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