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Jun 1, 2018 12:31:45   #
augieg27 Loc: Central California
 
Hello, does anyone use Photolemur Automatic Photo Editor?
If so, is it for real?
Thanks,
Augie

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Jun 1, 2018 12:39:27   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Why would anyone want to use something that reduces them to being simply a button pusher?
--Bob
augieg27 wrote:
Hello, does anyone use Photolemur Automatic Photo Editor?
If so, is it for real?
Thanks,
Augie

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Jun 1, 2018 12:45:20   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
I downloaded a the trial. It is the full program but sticks a big logo in the lower right corner.

It is for real! I was impressed. It took my RAW images and made something nice. I'm tempted to buy it but only tested it on a few shots.

Holding me back is an improvement recently in Lightroom. The "Auto" button used to be near worthless. Adobe put some "artificial intelligence" in a couple months ago. Now it works embarrassingly well and can be batched. On the very few images I tested, there seemed to be a tiny bit better result with Lightroom's Auto button.

If I was not already a Lightroom fan/addict, I probably would buy Photolemur for images that don't need or deserve hand crafted post processing.

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Jun 1, 2018 12:46:25   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
rmalarz wrote:
Why would anyone want to use something that reduces them to being simply a button pusher?
--Bob

Bob, it has a slider for intensity!

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Jun 1, 2018 21:24:51   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
rmalarz wrote:
Why would anyone want to use something that reduces them to being simply a button pusher?
--Bob


The legions of picture takers who have a fear of mastering Lightroom.

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Jun 2, 2018 05:10:40   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
rmalarz wrote:
Why would anyone want to use something that reduces them to being simply a button pusher?
--Bob


There are many people who simply don't have the time and/or patience to properly master editing software. For such folks, a program which can improve their images with a simple click or two is highly desirable.

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Jun 2, 2018 06:02:43   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
bsprague wrote:
in part: images that don't need or deserve hand crafted post processing.

Hand Crafted and Home Cooked are fading into the sunset. We buy "home cooked" convenience foods and we use AI mod for our photos. I recall being told by a "dye hard" PS person that they can do any thing that I do with my Topaz Plug-ins. True, perhaps not as well and 10 -100 times longer to do what Topaz does in a snap. Topaz has sliders and presets so one can quickly "Hand Draft" the image to suite. In comparison, Photolemur allows little latitude. Where are the basic tools?

Photolemur brings to the question of how much AI is too much. In the future, Cameras will analize the scene and shift to compose the photo... They and Hal-9000 know what is right.

There are times when I do Art by using the basic tools, for example turning day into nigh by exposure/contrast slider. Fun for me, is AI for art, it is here and has been for quite a while, however first we must crop and adjust a few parameters so that AI has good feed stock. Companies like Topaz, Jixipix, and Dynamic-Autopinter allow us to guide the hand of the masters like van-Gogh ... Google uses AI to do the Devils work using Deep-Dreams in which the computer can be pushed deeper to give eyes and hornes where they were never meant to be [love it]. Photolemur does no art, only slight exposure/contrast adjustment.

End comment... Photolemur is little more than the auto adjust found within most edit programs... PSPro, PSE, PS, and many others... to me Photolemur is OK for my Aunt Sally who love the word magic, but Photolemur is not for me. And I would suggest to Aunt Sally that she and 4 others form a "family" like Mr Manson did to share the $50 family edition. Is it worth $10... no not to me. Let it do its "magic" elsewhere.

rook2c4 is right, it is ok for those who do not want to take time or can not learn a basic edit program. He said, " For such folks, a program which can improve their images with a simple click or two is highly desirable." But I would leave out the word "highly." In fact I would call it the minimum. Humm, if those folks would use Auto on their camera... humm

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Jun 2, 2018 06:44:17   #
LarryFitz Loc: Beacon NY
 
It is very good for snap shots, not for photography

It was better then Windows Photo Galley auto correct for bright pictures. About the same a Photo Galley for darker images. I could setup a batch mode in Luminar to be better. But individual photo editing would be best.

I should have test having camera set to a vivid mode and compared Cameras JPEG vs Raw edit with Photolemur.

I read they were acquired by Skylum maker of Luminar.

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Jun 2, 2018 07:15:08   #
hj Loc: Florida
 
Because it's easier, faster and we can get on to other things. I'm sure you're stick driving a Stick shift".

rmalarz wrote:
Why would anyone want to use something that reduces them to being simply a button pusher?
--Bob

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Jun 2, 2018 07:20:33   #
hj Loc: Florida
 
I hope they weren't acquired by skylum. On facebook I saw a Skylum ad showing a before/after of the same shot and probably 80% of the comments liked the before better. As to Photolemur I bought it about a week ago and haven't used it much but I think I'm going to like it. Easy and I don't count pixels. I did notice that a few shots I preferred the "before" but most shots I like the photolemur enhancement.

LarryFitz wrote:
It is very good for snap shots, not for photography

It was better then Windows Photo Galley auto correct for bright pictures. About the same a Photo Galley for darker images. I could setup a batch mode in Luminar to be better. But individual photo editing would be best.

I should have test having camera set to a vivid mode and compared Cameras JPEG vs Raw edit with Photolemur.

I read they were acquired by Skylum maker of Luminar.

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Jun 2, 2018 08:05:35   #
CanonTom Loc: Birmingham
 
bsprague wrote:
I downloaded a the trial. It is the full program but sticks a big logo in the lower right corner.

It is for real! I was impressed. It took my RAW images and made something nice. I'm tempted to buy it but only tested it on a few shots.

Holding me back is an improvement recently in Lightroom. The "Auto" button used to be near worthless. Adobe put some "artificial intelligence" in a couple months ago. Now it works embarrassingly well and can be batched. On the very few images I tested, there seemed to be a tiny bit better result with Lightroom's Auto button.

If I was not already a Lightroom fan/addict, I probably would buy Photolemur for images that don't need or deserve hand crafted post processing.
I downloaded a the trial. It is the full program ... (show quote)


I am not totally sure, but I believe I saw an article last week that Luminar had purchased this company, in order to gain artificial intelligence usage or something to that effect. I don't of course know if that means anything special or different for its future. I have never used it, but the advertisements indicate the level of artificial intelligence is considered very good. Definitely aimed at folks who would rather not have to re-invent the wheel while post processing.

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Jun 2, 2018 08:06:22   #
dragoncello
 
LarryFitz wrote:
It is very good for snap shots, not for photography

It was better then Windows Photo Galley auto correct for bright pictures. About the same a Photo Galley for darker images. I could setup a batch mode in Luminar to be better. But individual photo editing would be best.

I should have test having camera set to a vivid mode and compared Cameras JPEG vs Raw edit with Photolemur.

I read they were acquired by Skylum maker of Luminar.


Here's the announcement from Skylum:

https://skylum.com/blog/skylum-introduces-skylum-ai-lab-and-joins-forces-with-photolemur?utm_source=Macphun+Friends&utm_campaign=fcdaf4c2ff-May_Skylum_News_Mac_EN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_912838542a-fcdaf4c2ff-276148165&mc_cid=fcdaf4c2ff&mc_eid=c27b9a5fb1

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Jun 2, 2018 08:47:30   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
rook2c4 wrote:
There are many people who simply don't have the time and/or patience to properly master editing software. For such folks, a program which can improve their images with a simple click or two is highly desirable.


Thank you very well said!!😀

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Jun 2, 2018 09:03:56   #
cyclespeed Loc: Calgary, Alberta Canada
 
Each to their own as my grandfather would say. I would prefer to be experiencing the scene live than spending the time in front of a computer screen attempting to perfect what my memory recalls and in so doing change my memory of the scene.
So I like the idea that I can click to adjust and if it isn't what I like to use I'd forgetaboutit.

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Jun 2, 2018 09:04:51   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
I ran a half dozen photos through the trial version of Photolemur. A couple were improved a bit, a couple not much and the others hardly changed. Not worth the price - not worth using!

As I have suggested two or three times previously, for extremely easy, FREE and surprisingly good results, use Adobe Photoshop Express!!! Their automatic function produces better results than Photolemur. For quality work, of course, there's LR and PS CC!!!

Loren

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