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Jul 22, 2012 18:49:55   #
Mike629 Loc: NJ,United States
 
How can an individual purchase all this ammo in 2 or 3 months, especially post 9-11, and it does not raise a red flag? Have your guns but limit ammo and 100 round clips ? No way. How many more times will we see tragedies like this in Aurora before we come to our collective senses and take action?

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Jul 22, 2012 19:20:57   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
This is not the first time a senseless act of this sort has been inflicted of innocent people by a long shot. Take for example Columbine, Tuscaloosa and a whole lot more that I can't think of right off the bat. Nothing will do it the 2nd Amendment fanatics won't let anyone touch their precious guns. I would like to have them explain to me why a member of the general public needs an assault rifle. Those should be banned like Feinstein's bill did. But that will never happen. Maybe when someone goes on a rampage in the Representatives assembly hall they will wake up. But that's even questionable. I hold out no hope for Congress to do anything.

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Jul 22, 2012 19:45:34   #
Robert Graybeal Loc: Myrtle Beach
 
There will always be that one lone lunatic and he will always be able to get a gun or two.

Don't think you should punish millions of resonable, law abiding citizins for the one.

Don't forget history ... 56,000,000 inocent people were rounded up and murdered in the 20th century due to gun control laws.

Criminals prefer unarmed victims and dictators prefer unarmed citizens!



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Jul 22, 2012 20:00:16   #
Danilo Loc: Las Vegas
 
I am constantly baffled that otherwise clear-thinking people hope to control the actions of law-breakers...by passing laws!
All that achieves is having something to prosecute them with afterwards, and we already have that. I can testify that, in my lifetime, murder has always been against the law. Using the prevailing logic, there should be no murder in our country. What went wrong?

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Jul 22, 2012 20:16:25   #
Michael O' Loc: Midwest right now
 
Mike629 wrote:
How can an individual purchase all this ammo in 2 or 3 months, especially post 9-11, and it does not raise a red flag? Have your guns but limit ammo and 100 round clips ? No way. How many more times will we see tragedies like this in Aurora before we come to our collective senses and take action?


There are over 20,000 gun laws in these United States; they only control the lawful. The insane usually commit these acts of
public group assassination to attain the "glory" of notoriety. The most effective protection against such acts of utter insanity is ensuring that individual citizens can carry arms. States that enact concealed carry law inevitably have a huge drop (20 to 50 %)in crime committed with guns, simply because the cowardly criminals don't know which of their potential victims might be armed and thus ready and able to resist. To absolutely disarm the public is to invite unstoppable rises in violent gun crime, as has resulted in England, Australia, and Toronto, Canada. The "toughest" gun laws in the USA are in New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, and Philidelphia -- which has resulted in the highest gun violence crimes constantly also being in those same cities. Only the lawful obey the laws, and while killing can happen in seconds, the police (who by Supreme Court affirmative ruling have zero responsibility to protect citizens) are a "mere" 10 to 20 minutes away, too late to assist. They can only report the deaths and carnage.

Any location where guns are prohibited acts as a magnet to those gun criminals seeking a free and unprotected "killing field" -- areas such as any college or other school campus where gun possession is "outlawed" by the school. So-called "Peaceniks" blindly refuse to accept the facts of criminal mindsets, thus dooming those there to the greatly heightened probability that the "gun free" zone will draw a crazy, but not dumb killer. Blind anti-gun philosophy buries common sense and reality.

Our ever more perverted, irresponsible and closed-mind society will continue to enable and encourage the "acting out" of those who used to be recognized as misfits dangerous to society. As Pogo said, "We have met the enemy, and he is us." Guns are not the problem, anymore than are cars or bathtubs. Our societal degradation of morality IS our major fallacy and problem -- which we refuse to face; it is easier to blame the gun than the killer we enable -- and even encourage -- by our blind "political correctness" judgments and actions.

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Jul 22, 2012 20:59:34   #
pbearperry Loc: Massachusetts
 
Maybe Obama will create a new bureaucratic agency to keep track of multiple ammo transactions.The first year there will prob. be 100 people involved.Within 5 years there will be 10,000 because of all the assistants,to the assistants,to the assistants that will be created.

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Jul 22, 2012 21:23:08   #
Mike629 Loc: NJ,United States
 
I enjoy the "cheeky" remarks and hackneyed "logic". Tell it to the mother who lost her 6 year young daughter, the father searching for his son on his birthday, to find out he was among the dead, on & on. These are not soldiers dying in a combat zone, they`re civilians dying in your home towns , killled by those who are armed better than most frontline troops. I know the slogan " guns don`t kill, people kill" . If you don`t ban the former than perhaps you should ban the latter. ;-)

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Jul 22, 2012 21:29:29   #
Michael O' Loc: Midwest right now
 
Robert Graybeal wrote:
There will always be that one lone lunatic and he will always be able to get a gun or two.

Don't think you should punish millions of resonable, law abiding citizins for the one.

Don't forget history ... 56,000,000 inocent people were rounded up and murdered in the 20th century due to gun control laws.

Criminals prefer unarmed victims and dictators prefer unarmed citizens!


Robert, I am impressed by your notation of the number of victims in the 20th century. May I assume it is the totals resulting from such as Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc.? Would you be so good as to list the groups included in the total ? Thank you.
Michael O'Flaherty soccermick33@yahoo.com

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Jul 22, 2012 21:32:37   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
Same was ask about a guy who bought a truck load of fertilizer and didn't own a farm - just never know who, when or with what.

Mike629 wrote:
How can an individual purchase all this ammo in 2 or 3 months, especially post 9-11, and it does not raise a red flag? Have your guns but limit ammo and 100 round clips ? No way. How many more times will we see tragedies like this in Aurora before we come to our collective senses and take action?

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Jul 22, 2012 21:50:16   #
glockman
 
And also remember Richard Speck, who killed 8 nurses with a knife in one night. If there is a will to do something you will find a way.

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Jul 22, 2012 21:51:53   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
the more important question is the "joker" had to be giving off all kinds of warning signs, and behavior habits thhat should have been a warning sign to those At his college that something was going wrong. Why are some of the most gited individuals having so much trouble dealing with life that they break? Perhaps we need "nerd" control. 7 day waiting period for computers, black clothing and grunge or emo music. The same people who are complaing about lack of tracking of ammo sales were complaining about the Patriot Act tracking certain individuals library history as an infringement on liberty.

Oh by the way, the fully automatic weapons that the military uses ( ie the real assult weapons are still illegal to own unless you have a class III federal firearms license. The second amendment states that the peoples right to bear arms(of any kind) SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. Finally, the second amendment is in the constitution not to protect hunting, it is there to protect the people's ability to resist TYRANNY by haveing the ability for another american revolution if our government gets despotic. That is why people have the right to own semi auto matic rifles. Look to ruby ridge , wounded knee,and Waco for examples of government abuse of power. Not defending mcveighe at all, but without waco there would not have been oklahoma city.

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Jul 22, 2012 21:51:54   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
double post. this space for rent

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Jul 22, 2012 21:55:47   #
Michael O' Loc: Midwest right now
 
Mike629 wrote:
I enjoy the "cheeky" remarks and hackneyed "logic". Tell it to the mother who lost her 6 year young daughter, the father searching for his son on his birthday, to find out he was among the dead, on & on. These are not soldiers dying in a combat zone, they`re civilians dying in your home towns , killled by those who are armed better than most frontline troops. I know the slogan " guns don`t kill, people kill" . If you don`t ban the former than perhaps you should ban the latter. ;-)
I enjoy the "cheeky" remarks and hackney... (show quote)


629, you give full evidence of being another of the closed mind set who blithely and blindly follow the dictates of the Hollywood geniuses, the so-called "Major media", the theory-only based college professorial community, and Mayor Bloomberg. Until you have devoted some years of your life to the defense of your country and its freedoms, I assume you will want to remain in your closeted condition -- and out of contact with the reality and facts of life. Logic is based upon FACT, not upon philosophy. Nor are we talking about Aristophanes' "The Kingdom of the Birds" here. No comedy. I would be most appreciative if, in future, you would confine your high jumping to track meets. Gratsi and arividercci and andiamo.

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Jul 22, 2012 21:56:04   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
great common sense. thanks for this comment.



Mike629 wrote:
I enjoy the "cheeky" remarks and hackneyed "logic". Tell it to the mother who lost her 6 year young daughter, the father searching for his son on his birthday, to find out he was among the dead, on & on. These are not soldiers dying in a combat zone, they`re civilians dying in your home towns , killled by those who are armed better than most frontline troops. I know the slogan " guns don`t kill, people kill" . If you don`t ban the former than perhaps you should ban the latter. ;-)
I enjoy the "cheeky" remarks and hackney... (show quote)

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Jul 22, 2012 21:58:41   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
Sinatraman, the gun lobby, including the National Rifle Association, pay our corrupt politicians immense amounts of money to maintain the status quo. What we need is campaign contribution reform to keep the crooked politicians from bowing to the special interests. This reform would go a long way to improving many situations.


sinatraman wrote:
the more important question is the "joker" had to be giving off all kinds of warning signs, and behavior habits thhat should have been a warning sign to those At his college that something was going wrong. Why are some of the most gited individuals having so much trouble dealing with life that they break? Perhaps we need "nerd" control. 7 day waiting period for computers, black clothing and grunge or emo music. The same people who are complaing about lack of tracking of ammo sales were complaining about the Patriot Act tracking certain individuals library history as an infringement on liberty.

Oh by the way, the fully automatic weapons that the military uses ( ie the real assult weapons are still illegal to own unless you have a class III federal firearms license. The second amendment states that the peoples right to bear arms(of any kind) SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. Finally, the second amendment is in the constitution not to protect hunting, it is there to protect the people's ability to resist TYRANNY by haveing the ability for another american revolution if our government gets despotic. That is why people have the right to own semi auto matic rifles. Look to ruby ridge , wounded knee,and Waco for examples of government abuse of power. Not defending mcveighe at all, but without waco there would not have been oklahoma city.
the more important question is the "joker&quo... (show quote)

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