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Solving the DSLR versus smartphone camera conundrum
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May 27, 2018 14:37:55   #
BebuLamar
 
I don't think there is anything to solve. The Iphone was issued to me as a communication, information device and I use it as such. I do use the camera app of the phone often but it clearly falls in the category of communication and information. I often have to take pictures of serial numbers, part list, the defective parts themselves and emailing them or send in a text message to communicate with others. Others send me pictures of screen shots, display on a machine for me to figure out what went wrong. The phone works quite well in that respect.
Otherwise I rather use a camera even my 16 year old or so Coolpix 5000 with 5MP sensor is in many ways better than the 12MP cell phone.

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May 28, 2018 05:53:01   #
Tom Rose
 
Conundrum? What conundrum. There is no conundrum!

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May 28, 2018 06:20:22   #
johneccles Loc: Leyland UK
 
When I take a photograph with my camera it shows up on my phone instantly, complete with all the Exif Data and GPS. The phone is my back up storage for my photographs, so I have every photograph taken immediately stored in three places, the camera, the phone and the cloud. Eventually they are transferred to my PC and an external hard drive.
So in my case, my camera and my phone are combined together or can be used separately, whichever is appropriate.

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May 28, 2018 06:35:24   #
ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.
 
Honestly, there is nothing to solve. I use either and both for my wants and needs. The phone is small and always with me. The Nikon I have to plan to use. When I have both, they each have pros and cons. Try attaching a heavy lens to a smartphone. Equally, try getting into tight spaces with a DSLR setup.

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May 28, 2018 07:00:42   #
Richard Becker
 
The end result that you want should determine the equipment you use. Unfortunately, too few people make up albums now a days. Research seems to prove that the best way to preserve history is to put it on paper--not leave it on your iphone or in the computer. Dick Becker

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May 28, 2018 07:18:36   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
Tom Daniels wrote:
My 2 cents is the argument about DSLR's and smart phones is strange. No one has mentioned the ergonomics of holding the edges of
an 800 dollar iPhone and trying not to drop it. Yes the newer phones of very good photography and video. Yes their are lens and things
you can attach to the iPhone. I am amazed to see people leaning over a cruise ship rail shooting with their phone. Yes I use my iPhone
for photos and recording important moments and my own license plates. Their is a group a while ago that shot a commercial and
a movie was made with a cell phone that won awards. But they rigged it up with film equipment. If you can give me a cell phone that
can do what my sony a7s II and a zeiss lens can do I am in.
My 2 cents is the argument about DSLR's and smart ... (show quote)


I have a $1000+ iPhone and I never drop it. The case I have it in is easy to grasp and I can trip the shutter by touching anywhere on the screen. It seems you're just looking for an excuse to put down cell phone photography. Tiresome.

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May 28, 2018 07:33:17   #
Kettle
 
If you have to ask, stick with the phone.

Since you're considering the phone, your requirements are low, so the camera would be overkill.

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May 28, 2018 07:33:29   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
gvarner wrote:
For me, it's a matter of looking at it primarily as a system issue. I can expand a DSLR system according to my needs, almost without limitation. I don't think you can say that about cameras in phones without being pretty restrictive on your needs.


You can buy lenses to attach to a phone, but that doesn't appeal to me. Basically, I'm not comfortable taking pictures with a phone. The phone is capably, but I'm not. : )

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May 28, 2018 08:04:49   #
Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV
 
I am a lot like Jerry, I'm really not ready for the phone for serious photography even if it will work. I use my phone a lot and like having certain photos with me but if I know that if I am going to take photos at church or a business function, I want my DSLR. However, the old saying "what ever floats your boat" applies!

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May 28, 2018 08:15:20   #
Bison Bud
 
When they offer a camera that also acts as a phone, rather than a phone that tries to also be a camera, then I'm in. However, I think that there are size limitations involved that will prevent this from happening anytime soon. I will admit that they have made some big improvements in that direction with the cell phone cameras, but they're not there yet and those improvements have also helped boost the prices to well beyond what I am willing to pay for a phone. One can buy a professional level DLSR body for what some of these phones cost these days. Unfortunately, the cameras in the more reasonably priced phones are generally crap and even though I have one, it almost never gets used. To each their own, but I'm not giving up my DLSR or even my upper end point and shoot cameras any time soon!

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May 28, 2018 08:43:49   #
Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)
 
Bison Bud wrote:
When they offer a camera that also acts as a phone, rather than a phone that tries to also be a camera, then I'm in. However, I think that there are size limitations involved that will prevent this from happening anytime soon. I will admit that they have made some big improvements in that direction with the cell phone cameras, but they're not there yet and those improvements have also helped boost the prices to well beyond what I am willing to pay for a phone. One can buy a professional level DLSR body for what some of these phones cost these days. Unfortunately, the cameras in the more reasonably priced phones are generally crap and even though I have one, it almost never gets used. To each their own, but I'm not giving up my DLSR or even my upper end point and shoot cameras any time soon!
When they offer a camera that also acts as a phone... (show quote)

Samsung offered such a model, the K4 zoom, which was essentially a camera with a built in phone. Didn't get great reviews. It's photo quality was marginally better than the competition, at the expense of it's performance as a phone

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May 28, 2018 08:50:15   #
Festus Loc: North Dakota
 
gvarner wrote:
For me, it's a matter of looking at it primarily as a system issue. I can expand a DSLR system according to my needs, almost without limitation. I don't think you can say that about cameras in phones without being pretty restrictive on your needs.


There is no conundrum! It's a total waste of time trying to dream one up!

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May 28, 2018 09:00:43   #
Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)
 
Tom Daniels wrote:
My 2 cents is the argument about DSLR's and smart phones is strange. No one has mentioned the ergonomics of holding the edges of
an 800 dollar iPhone and trying not to drop it. Yes the newer phones of very good photography and video. Yes their are lens and things
you can attach to the iPhone. I am amazed to see people leaning over a cruise ship rail shooting with their phone. Yes I use my iPhone
for photos and recording important moments and my own license plates. Their is a group a while ago that shot a commercial and
a movie was made with a cell phone that won awards. But they rigged it up with film equipment. If you can give me a cell phone that
can do what my sony a7s II and a zeiss lens can do I am in.
My 2 cents is the argument about DSLR's and smart ... (show quote)


Check out this shot. One mistake or distraction, and her I phone "swims with the fishes"


(Download)

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May 28, 2018 09:07:02   #
suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ
 
Why this differentiation? It's just another tool to use. It's called progress. And I welcome the improvements. However I think the escalating prices of the very good phone/cameras might limit its sales and development for the future. But who knows. The same could be said of DLSRs. With prices nearing 2000.00 for a new midlevel DLSR and climbing to over 3000.00 for a new full frame and coveted lenses priced 2000.00+...

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May 28, 2018 09:08:12   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
Most phones have cameras, they also have digital voice recorders. I wouldn't confuse the voice recorder in my phone with a $1,000 digital field audio recorder or my phone's camera with any DLSR. It's a physical limitation on the size and movability of the lens. Phone cams certainly do have a purpose (as you almost always have it with you), I use mine many times when an unexpected thing happens (photo or video opportunity), In fact I probably shot more video with my phone this year than stills, but if I even THINK I'm going to be shooting on purpose, I take some "actual camera"- I have a tiny Samsung P&S that's not only as pocket sized as any cellphone, it uses the same charger as my phone - No real inconvenience "penalty" and I almost always have a "real" camera with me.

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