Pinhole lens information.
Looks like a pancake lens - I would not think pinhole photography got this advanced. Very interesting. I remember reading about it in theory in photography books years ago.
From what I have gathered over the last few yrs is: The "pinhole lens" is nothing more than a holder or adapter to hold the plate or sheet metal containing the "pinhole", and giving you the exact dia. of the "pinhole". There is a math. formula to find the f stop, but it escapes me and if it is that important to you I suggest you google it.
Let's see some pix!!
Of the 'lens.'
On the camera.
And some you've shot with the combination.
First off, there is no point of convergence in the lens. Focal length is the distance between the lens and the focal point on the film or sensor, when discussing photography. Light rays do not converge within the lens, but some distance "behind" it.
The f-stop of a pinhole lens will be the distance between the pinhole and the photosensitive surface. Due to the optical characteristics of a pinhole, that distance can vary. So, if you know the diameter of the pinhole and the distance between the pinhole and the photosensitive surface the f-number is equal to that distance divided by the diameter of the pinhole.
--Bob
DaveC1 wrote:
I've been playing with a pinhole lens I made from a 0.35mm pinhole I purchased from EBay, a M42 metal screw on body cover, and a Nikon M42 to F converter. What I'm going to present is the math to determine the f stop of an pinhole lens and an easy way to use it with a light meter.
First of all the focal length is the distance between the point of convergence in your lens to the sensor or film in your camera. In the case of a pinhole lens that point of convergence is the pinhole. So in the case of the Nikon F mount the focal length of a pinhole mounted as I have is approximately 50mm, give or take.
So what does that make the f stop # for this pinhole lens? The f stop is equal to the focal length divided by the aperture. In my case with a 0.35mm pinhole and with a 50mm focal length its 143.
So how do I use that with a light meter since none of my light meters go up to f stop 143? If you do a 1/2 stop series spreadsheet starting at 1 you find 143 falls in between f stop 128 and the next 1/2 stop of 152.2. Rounding up to 152.2 I have found that there is a conversion factor between f2 and f152of 5400 so if your light meter gives you a reading of f2 at 1/60" multiply that shutter speed by 5400 resulting in 5400/60=90" By the same token a light meter reading at f22 has a conversion factor of 45. So if your light meter gives a shutter speed of 2 seconds at f22: 2"*45=90". Both readings are EV 8 by the way.
I'm certain that there are other ways to arrive at shutter values for such high f stops this is just one way. This method works for me and results in good exposures.
Comments welcome.
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twowindsbear wrote:
Let's see some pix!!
Of the 'lens.'
On the camera.
And some you've shot with the combination.
I do not have any photos of the lens either on or off the camera at the moment, however, here are a couple of shots with the pinhole lens.
Now if I put the pin hole on a bellow then I can make it a zoom lens right?
DaveC1 wrote:
I've been playing with a pinhole lens I made from a 0.35mm pinhole I purchased from EBay, a M42 metal screw on body cover, and a Nikon M42 to F converter. What I'm going to present is the math to determine the f stop of an pinhole lens and an easy way to use it with a light meter.
First of all the focal length is the distance between the point of convergence in your lens to the sensor or film in your camera. In the case of a pinhole lens that point of convergence is the pinhole. So in the case of the Nikon F mount the focal length of a pinhole mounted as I have is approximately 50mm, give or take.
So what does that make the f stop # for this pinhole lens? The f stop is equal to the focal length divided by the aperture. In my case with a 0.35mm pinhole and with a 50mm focal length its 143.
So how do I use that with a light meter since none of my light meters go up to f stop 143? If you do a 1/2 stop series spreadsheet starting at 1 you find 143 falls in between f stop 128 and the next 1/2 stop of 152.2. Rounding up to 152.2 I have found that there is a conversion factor between f2 and f152of 5400 so if your light meter gives you a reading of f2 at 1/60" multiply that shutter speed by 5400 resulting in 5400/60=90" By the same token a light meter reading at f22 has a conversion factor of 45. So if your light meter gives a shutter speed of 2 seconds at f22: 2"*45=90". Both readings are EV 8 by the way.
I'm certain that there are other ways to arrive at shutter values for such high f stops this is just one way. This method works for me and results in good exposures.
Comments welcome.
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The easiest method is to use a mirrorless and just watch the display or EVF. Since it is WYSIWYG, just adjust until you like the look. And don't even worry about measuring the light.
Of course that tiny hole is going to cause diffraction to be a big problem and the result will never look very good. But you can at least recognize what you are aiming at.
BebuLamar wrote:
Now if I put the pin hole on a bellow then I can make it a zoom lens right?
True, but light fall off will be very noticeable as you make it go farther away.
DaveC1 wrote:
I do not have any photos of the lens either on or off the camera at the moment, however, here are a couple of shots with the pinhole lens.
This is actually quite good for a pin hole lens. I have seen far worse. Light diffraction causes the edges to be soft.
rmalarz wrote:
First off, there is no point of convergence in the lens. Focal length is the distance between the lens and the focal point on the film or sensor, when discussing photography. Light rays do not converge within the lens, but some distance "behind" it.
The f-stop of a pinhole lens will be the distance between the pinhole and the photosensitive surface. Due to the optical characteristics of a pinhole, that distance can vary. So, if you know the diameter of the pinhole and the distance between the pinhole and the photosensitive surface the f-number is equal to that distance divided by the diameter of the pinhole.
--Bob
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Thank you Bob
I found my Old 8X10 pinhole camera I built 0ver 30 yrs ago, when I dig it out I'll take a few shots of it and post them.
The photo with flag shot at 1" iso400. The oxalis was shot at 3" iso800. The camera is eos1000 d. Both on tripod. Lens and camera shot with cell phone. Hope this is helpful.
Note that the glass you see is only protection, not a lens. I blew dust off before using.
newtoyou wrote:
The photo with flag shot at 1" iso400. The oxalis was shot at 3" iso800. The camera is eos1000 d. Both on tripod. Lens and camera shot with cell phone. Hope this is helpful.
What's the aperture diameter?
newtoyou wrote:
Shop.Remember, this is a Pinhole less is more. 10$ will get you a fit for .your camera 10$.Go from there.
I purchased a Nikon body cap, drilled a ¼" hole, cut out a ½x½" piece of a soda can, and punched a small hole in the center. Using black gaffer tape to secure it in the center of the hole, I had a pinhole lens.
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