MS 13 (Page 2): He said exactly what you said. He also said what Elaine says he said. I have to assume he was in front of cameras more than once.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Twardlow wrote:

OK, we’ll re-read your post together.

“There could be an MS-13 gang member I know about,” Mims said. “[But] if they don’t reach a certain threshold, I cannot tell ICE about them.”

“We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in — we’re stopping a lot of them. You wouldn’t believe how bad these people are. These aren’t people, these are animals, and we’re taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that’s never happened before.”

He said exactly what you said. He also said what Elaine says he said. I have to assume he was in front of cameras more than once.

Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa

thom w wrote:

He didn't say all (that I witnessed) but he did say immigrants (or maybe i*****l i*******ts, I'm not positive) without qualifying it. I watched the video on television. I also saw him say MS13 in a different video. I'm not disputing what you saw, I am saying that people who saw him say something different than what you saw are also correct. It is correct to say he said MS13. It is not correct to say he only said MS13.

If he said all immigrants coming in are animals, we all know it would be on video. All I am saying is provide the video proof that Trump said that.

Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa

thom w wrote:

He said exactly what you said. He also said what Elaine says he said. I have to assume he was in front of cameras more than once.

What I saw reported was that the media edited their film to make it look like he said all i******s were animals. Sara accused the media of taking it out of context and not including the ms 13 reference,

Reddog Loc: Southern Calif

Elaine2025 wrote:

The President said the gangs of MS 13 that obummer let in were animals. The press reported that the President said i*****l i*******ts were animals. Sara Huckabee gave examples of their atrocities of MS 13. Libtards still want to call that free and fair press with no bias?

Elaine there is video of what he was saying. The media reported his words correctly but not what he had said prior. It was obvious to me he was talking about MS 13!

Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa

Twardlow wrote:

OK, we’ll re-read your post together.

“There could be an MS-13 gang member I know about,” Mims said. “[But] if they don’t reach a certain threshold, I cannot tell ICE about them.”

“We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in — we’re stopping a lot of them. You wouldn’t believe how bad these people are. These aren’t people, these are animals, and we’re taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that’s never happened before.”

Below is my original post. nothing about where ms 13 originated. It is about the bias of the liberal press.

The President said the gangs of MS 13 that obummer let in were animals. The press reported that the President said i*****l i*******ts were animals. Sara Huckabee gave examples of their atrocities of MS 13. Libtards still want to call that free and fair press with no bias?

Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa

Reddog wrote:

Elaine there is video of what he was saying. The media reported his words correctly but not what he had said prior. It was obvious to me he was talking about MS 13!

Correct you are. Deliberate lies by the media to make Trump look bad. If he had said it, fine, report it, but to deliberately and blatantly lie to the public is why most do not trust the libtard media. They are liars and distorters of the t***h.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Elaine2025 wrote:

Correct you are. Deliberate lies by the media to make Trump look bad. If he had said it, fine, report it, but to deliberately and blatantly lie to the public is why most do not trust the libtard media. They are liars and distorters of the t***h.

If he had only said MS13 he wouldn't have felt compelled to later say he only meant MS13.

Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa

thom w wrote:

If he had only said MS13 he wouldn't have felt compelled to later say he only meant MS13.

you are nit picking. He gave the explanation because he was aware of the way the press reported it. It's that simple. Do you really believe the press reports fairly?

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Elaine2025 wrote:

Tardlow, re read the post, phone a friend, get out the dictionary, and re read the post. Let me help you, it is a bout the biased libtard media falsely reporting what was said. One libtard starts talking about how ms 13 originated, you all chime in, are completely off topic and begin congratulating yourselves on how smart you are, when in fact you are a moron. You can't even comprehend what is written and stay on topic.

OK, we’ll read your post together, see what it says:

“The President said the gangs of MS 13 that obummer let in were animals. The press reported that the President said i*****l i*******ts were animals. Sara Huckabee gave examples of their atrocities of MS 13. Libtards still want to call that free and fair press with no bias?”

Let me point your attention to the beginning: “The President said the gangs of MS 13 that obummer let in were animals.”

Obama didn’t let any gang members in. The gangs were formed In This Nation, After They Were Already In The Country, and Obama Had Nothing To Do With It!!

Discussing how the gang was formed, WHERE The Gang Was Formed, and When, is fundamental to your post, and completely denigrates your intended meaning and your intended slur.

OBAMA HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE GANGS!

For Shame.

Surely you can read that much!

Here is the full exchange:

““There could be an MS-13 gang member I know about,” Mims said. “[But] if they don’t reach a certain threshold, I cannot tell ICE about them.”

And Trump responds:

“We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in — we’re stopping a lot of them. You wouldn’t believe how bad these people are. These aren’t people, these are animals, and we’re taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that’s never happened before.”

Trump starts out thus: “We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in — we’re stopping a lot of them.”

Trump has changed the subject! He isn’t talking about gang members! They Don’t Cross The Border, damnit! He’s Talking About Immigrants, pure and simple, no question, and without a doubt.

Sara gave examples of atrocities, and many and wild and d********g and violent the atrocities were—beyond the realm of civilization, certainly. But They Were Examples Of An AMERICAN-Formed Gang!

Clearly, they were.

Those Gangs Didn’t Cross The Border!!!

But then you say, “Libtards still want to call that free and fair press with no bias?”

Well, I say that press reported fairly and accurately exactly what Trump said, and that is more than you did, even upon reflection.

You were so determined to express your hatred for Obama that you attributed something to him that was unfair and dishonest and misleading.

Then you attacked the press for reporting exactly what happened, and reported it accurately and honestly.

Lady, you were the dishonest one, and you continue to be even after you re-read your post and realized how fundamentally you mis-spoke.

I know your ego will not permit you the honesty of admitting the t***h, and that will never change, but some readers here can value an independent opinion, can read a statement of fact, and can judge for themselves.

It is for those honest and responsible reader that I write.

Reddog Loc: Southern Calif

Elaine2025 wrote:

Correct you are. Deliberate lies by the media to make Trump look bad. If he had said it, fine, report it, but to deliberately and blatantly lie to the public is why most do not trust the libtard media. They are liars and distorters of the t***h.

Elaine you must know by now that when Trump calls something f**e news it only means negative news towards him. Trump is usually the one lying and is in many videos proving this! If you think the media is lying what do you think of Trump who distorts and lies daily? We can make a list of the media’s lies and compare it to trumps lies. Trump wins by a landslide!

Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa

Reddog wrote:

Elaine you must know by now that when Trump calls something f**e news it only means negative news towards him. Trump is usually the one lying and is in many videos proving this! If you think the media is lying what do you think of Trump who distorts and lies daily? We can make a list of the media’s lies and compare it to trumps lies. Trump wins by a landslide!

The point is the media is supposed to report facts. Not biased information. It is what you say about Trump, he lies so I don’t believe him. The media lies so I don’t believe them. So I think we agree?

Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa

Twardlow wrote:

OK, we’ll read your post together, see what it say... (show quote)

I stand corrected. He did not say obummer let them in. I said that knowing the Muslim immigration .statistics under obummer. I did not intentionally mislead. My error, I apologize.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Elaine2025 wrote:

I stand corrected. He did not say obummer let them in. I said that knowing the Muslim immigration .statistics under obummer. I did not intentionally mislead. My error, I apologize.

I know you said that. I wasn’t trying to place those words in his mouth. I think you were perfectly clear—wrong, in my opinion, but clear.

No apologies necessary in my opinion.

(Later...)

I went back and read your post, and what you say is actually correct. I didn’t read it that way, and assumed that was you speaking.

It was generous of you to apologize, but I didn’t feel it was necessary.

Nice having a civil conversation with you.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

thom w wrote:

He said exactly what you said. He also said what Elaine says he said. I have to assume he was in front of cameras more than once.

The quote I showed was from a news site referring to the specific controversey.

I think my post to Elaine is clear and definitive.

Trump didn’t answer the question the reporter asked, and the context changed from MS 13 to immigrants, in my opinion.

wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma

Elaine2025 wrote:

Sarge can’t possibly be an i***t, can he? He says he knows everything.

now you own him...dont know what you would want him for, tho..