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May 16, 2018 15:01:53   #
Jesu S
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Y'all should stop complaining about the bulk and weight of those BIG DSLRs. They are miniaturized computers/cameras/GPS devices and more and could probably be set to brew your coffee in the morning!


Excellent points. But don't smartphones do all that plus connect with the internet, send and receive texts and emails, and, of course, make phone calls...

Take the old SLR, subtract space needed for the 2 spools of film, add space needed for SD and CD cards, add space needed for chip which contains all the "techie" stuff (GPS, wi-fi, software to convert sensor data to JPG, etc.) Shouldn't the end result be the same size or smaller? (Ignore the fact that SLRs are almost always FF, and have larger sensors than APS-C DSLRs.)

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May 16, 2018 15:29:06   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
Another point is that camera users (at least some of them), don't like like small camera bodies. And complain about.

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May 16, 2018 20:22:05   #
pendennis
 
Jesu S wrote:
Point I was trying to make is that all the other devices mentioned became more capable AND smaller.
DSLRs became more capable and bigger.
Smartphones have shown that it is possible to add all these capabilities without adding bulk.


DSLR's have limits to their size reduction. Mirrors, prisms, lens mounts, sensors, built-in flash, etc., have physical minimum sizes. A 50mm f/1.4 lens needs X amount of space, e.g. It also takes up more space for newer, more efficient batteries. When I compared the D5 to the F5, the F5 to compete is far more bulky than the D5.

I agree that there are more cubic inches, but watches are only required to display the time, date, etc. Those functions are far more limited in scope than the CPU of a modern DSLR. Laptops and desktops, while they have smaller, more powerful processors, also have more bulk when it comes to the display, storage capacity (disk drives still take up a lot of physical space).

The modern "smart phone" is twice the bulk of a flip phone.

Form still follows function, more than ever.

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May 17, 2018 00:44:05   #
ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.
 
pendennis wrote:
DSLR's have limits to their size reduction. Mirrors, prisms, lens mounts, sensors, built-in flash, etc., have physical minimum sizes. A 50mm f/1.4 lens needs X amount of space, e.g. It also takes up more space for newer, more efficient batteries. When I compared the D5 to the F5, the F5 to compete is far more bulky than the D5.

I agree that there are more cubic inches, but watches are only required to display the time, date, etc. Those functions are far more limited in scope than the CPU of a modern DSLR. Laptops and desktops, while they have smaller, more powerful processors, also have more bulk when it comes to the display, storage capacity (disk drives still take up a lot of physical space).

The modern "smart phone" is twice the bulk of a flip phone.

Form still follows function, more than ever.
DSLR's have limits to their size reduction. Mirro... (show quote)


Imagine holding your camera, with a huge 3kg lens, if all you have is something the size of a smartphone to hold and operate with. Imagine focussing that lens, or rapidly zooming in or out with it. It just isn't practical.

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