Which is the better investment?
May 14, 2018 08:51:51 #
I have been looking at the Panasonic G9 and the Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark 11,not sure which one would be better for taking pictures of birds and wildlife. Does anyone have any suggestions? I shoot with a Canon 7d m11 but looking for something smaller
May 14, 2018 09:10:29 #
A better INVESTMENT, perhaps an original, not kit, AC / Ford Cobra w/427 CID.
May 14, 2018 09:16:42 #
jeryh
Loc: Oxfordshire UK
Get the olympus OMD 1, it will serve you well,but you will be well advised to get their Pro lens for bird work.
May 14, 2018 09:17:26 #
jackpinoh
Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
Eagles777 wrote:
I have been looking at the Panasonic G9 and the Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark 11,not sure which one would be better for taking pictures of birds and wildlife. Does anyone have any suggestions? I shoot with a Canon 7d m11 but looking for something smaller
Both cameras are suitable for birds and wildlife. Try them both and pick the one you feel you will enjoy the best. In either case, the Panasonic 100-400mm, f/4-6.3 or the lens or the Olympus 300mm f/4 lens with or without the 1.4TC will be great lens options. Either camera with the Panasonic lens will weigh about 3.5 lb. The Olympus lens with the 1.4TC on either camera will be about 4.5 lb.
PS: Camera gear is an expense, not an investment.
May 14, 2018 09:25:04 #
I have no experience with the Olympus, but have owned the G9 for about three months. I sold my Nikon D810 and D600 and do not miss them at all.
The G9 just feels good. I picked up a used G3 for $100.00 and usually leave a 12-60mm on it. Using an OP/TECH double strap system, I hang this combo on one side. I carry my G9 with a Pano 100-400mm on the other. This covers a 24mm to 800mm FOV. All this hand held with very little strain.
I can not emphasize how much fun the Panasonic G9 has put back into photography for me.
The G9 just feels good. I picked up a used G3 for $100.00 and usually leave a 12-60mm on it. Using an OP/TECH double strap system, I hang this combo on one side. I carry my G9 with a Pano 100-400mm on the other. This covers a 24mm to 800mm FOV. All this hand held with very little strain.
I can not emphasize how much fun the Panasonic G9 has put back into photography for me.
May 14, 2018 09:25:35 #
Eagles777 wrote:
I have been looking at the Panasonic G9 and the Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark 11,not sure which one would be better for taking pictures of birds and wildlife. Does anyone have any suggestions? I shoot with a Canon 7d m11 but looking for something smaller
Forget those two. You’ll need at least 600mm for birds. Better choice: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1361560-REG/sony_sony_rx10iv_digital_camera.html?ap=y&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIioeXjaaF2wIVDP5kCh3jfQsBEAQYAiABEgKGqvD_BwE
May 14, 2018 10:04:03 #
jackpinoh
Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
Forget those two. You’ll need at least 600mm for birds. Better choice: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1361560-REG/sony_sony_rx10iv_digital_camera.html?ap=y&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIioeXjaaF2wIVDP5kCh3jfQsBEAQYAiABEgKGqvD_BwE
Wrong!
1. Because both cameras are micro 4/3 (crop factor = 2.0), the effective field of view is not 300mm or 400mm, but 600mm and 200-800mm with the Olympus and Panasonic lenses.
2. The AF speed of the RX10iv is too slow to capture wildlife or birds in flight unless you have prefocused at the correct distance.
May 14, 2018 13:56:21 #
The only investment-grade cameras are Nikon and Leica rangefinder cameras. But only certain models. And they offer more value if they haven't been used. Every other camera is a terrible investment, often losing 50% of their value in three years or less.
May 14, 2018 15:40:42 #
jackpinoh wrote:
Both cameras are suitable for birds and wildlife. Try them both and pick the one you feel you will enjoy the best. In either case, the Panasonic 100-400mm, f/4-6.3 or the lens or the Olympus 300mm f/4 lens with or without the 1.4TC will be great lens options. Either camera with the Panasonic lens will weigh about 3.5 lb. The Olympus lens with the 1.4TC on either camera will be about 4.5 lb.
PS: Camera gear is an expense, not an investment.
PS: Camera gear is an expense, not an investment.
If the OP is a professional then the camera is an investment too. The yield on the investment not by reselling them but the revenue that you can get with the camera vs without the camera. You can't say a manufacturer spending money buying their equipment and tools are not investment.
May 14, 2018 15:45:37 #
jackpinoh wrote:
Wrong!
1. Because both cameras are micro 4/3 (crop factor = 2.0), the effective field of view is not 300mm or 400mm, but 600mm and 200-800mm with the Olympus and Panasonic lenses.
2. The AF speed of the RX10iv is too slow to capture wildlife or birds in flight unless you have prefocused at the correct distance.
1. Because both cameras are micro 4/3 (crop factor = 2.0), the effective field of view is not 300mm or 400mm, but 600mm and 200-800mm with the Olympus and Panasonic lenses.
2. The AF speed of the RX10iv is too slow to capture wildlife or birds in flight unless you have prefocused at the correct distance.
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May 14, 2018 16:15:18 #
What lens are you considering to buy with it. While you can mix and match brands, the longer the lens, I suggest matching them to the brand.
If the 40-150 or 300, then em1ii
If 100-400 then G9
Keep in mind the focusing systems are different. I like Olympus because it uses both PDAF and CDAF, and I can use old 4/3 glass, like my 150f2 with an adaptor and still have excellent AF.
If the 40-150 or 300, then em1ii
If 100-400 then G9
Keep in mind the focusing systems are different. I like Olympus because it uses both PDAF and CDAF, and I can use old 4/3 glass, like my 150f2 with an adaptor and still have excellent AF.
May 15, 2018 05:49:00 #
Its rare that a camera purchase is considered an investment. Like a car its a deprecating asset. Given the technology progress it will be obsolete in 2 to 3 years.
However, lenses are exception. They depreciate much slower and last a lot longer and within the same camera line they can still be used (more or less).
However, lenses are exception. They depreciate much slower and last a lot longer and within the same camera line they can still be used (more or less).
May 15, 2018 06:17:41 #
Eagles777 wrote:
I have been looking at the Panasonic G9 and the Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark 11,not sure which one would be better for taking pictures of birds and wildlife. Does anyone have any suggestions? I shoot with a Canon 7d m11 but looking for something smaller
May 15, 2018 06:26:46 #
lamiaceae wrote:
A better INVESTMENT, perhaps an original, not kit, AC / Ford Cobra w/427 CID.
Isn’t that the full frame version
May 15, 2018 06:34:33 #
Cdouthitt wrote:
What lens are you considering to buy with it. While you can mix and match brands, the longer the lens, I suggest matching them to the brand.
If the 40-150 or 300, then em1ii
If 100-400 then G9
Keep in mind the focusing systems are different. I like Olympus because it uses both PDAF and CDAF, and I can use old 4/3 glass, like my 150f2 with an adaptor and still have excellent AF.
If the 40-150 or 300, then em1ii
If 100-400 then G9
Keep in mind the focusing systems are different. I like Olympus because it uses both PDAF and CDAF, and I can use old 4/3 glass, like my 150f2 with an adaptor and still have excellent AF.
Shhh don’t share our secret! I use the 50-200 f2,8. That’s 100-400mm of reasonably fast glass for chirp chirp. My EM-1 v1.0 is everything I could ever want and being able to use 4/3 is wonderful! Like the 12-60 f2.8. Not to mention the cdaf of the EM-5’s with the Pana-Leica 14-50, which is 4/3 but cadf optimized
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