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May 13, 2018 21:16:19   #
Munnsville1a
 
I shoot with a Sony a6500 and am stumbling through the instruction manual for hints.

The most expeditious solution may be a B & W filter but I am hoping some of you UHH'ers may have some insights to share.

Thanks and a big shout out to all respondants!

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May 13, 2018 21:21:59   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
It may be referring to a “digital menu choice”. My mirrorless has the option of monochrome + yellow, monchrome + green, etc. the resulting images replicate shooting B&W film with various filters.

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May 13, 2018 21:48:28   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
I have the Sony a6000, a99ii, and a7s. I did a test with my a99ii and actual B&W color filters , yellow, red, and green. The results were not as dramatic as with B&W film. I tested, shooting in color and the also in camera B&W mode. Then both images were converted in Apple photos. I prefer just shooting in color and convertering in the computer. A fellow photographer who is also a BFA photo major, did the same test with his Nikon gear. His results were different. The most dramatic images were with an orange actual color filter. If you are referring to in camera B&W and the associated colors, you get a B&W image and that color. Example: a bride and all is B&W but the red roses are red. Happy Shooting

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May 13, 2018 21:52:51   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
ORpilot wrote:
I have the Sony a6000, a99ii, and a7s. I did a test with my a99ii and actual B&W color filters , yellow, red, and green. The results were not as dramatic as with B&W film. I tested, shooting in color and the also in camera B&W mode. Then both images were converted in Apple photos. I prefer just shooting in color and convertering in the computer. A fellow photographer who is also a BFA photo major, did the same test with his Nikon gear. His results were different. The most dramatic images were with an orange actual color filter. If you are referring to in camera B&W and the associated colors, you get a B&W image and that color. Example: a bride and all is B&W but the red roses are red. Happy Shooting
I have the Sony a6000, a99ii, and a7s. I did a tes... (show quote)


Not in my case. My Fuji “replicates” in black and white what the filter would do. For example: the green lightens foliage and the red renders blue skies a very dark tone. Just two examples I’ve tried.

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May 13, 2018 22:25:43   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
Not in my case. My Fuji “replicates” in black and white what the filter would do. For example: the green lightens foliage and the red renders blue skies a very dark tone. Just two examples I’ve tried.


The color filters did work but not dramatic as with real pancromatic film such as Panatomic-x. As suspected, each camera manufactures sensor is different as is their computer code logrithims. Just like Ford, Chevy, Dodge etc. The same thing only different.

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May 13, 2018 22:28:58   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
ORpilot wrote:
The color filters did work but not dramatic as with real pancromatic film such as Panatomic-x. As suspected, each camera manufactures sensor is different as is their computer code logrithims. Just like Ford, Chevy, Dodge etc. The same thing only different.


Oh. It sounded in the prior post, like you were referring to selective coloration, wherein a portion of a black and white photo is in a color. I was referring to color filters to control the tones of various portions of the photo.

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May 13, 2018 22:36:50   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
Correct. I mentioned both in my post.

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May 13, 2018 23:11:41   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
ORpilot wrote:
Correct. I mentioned both in my post.



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May 13, 2018 23:29:56   #
rwilson1942 Loc: Houston, TX
 
The best approach, in my opinion, is to convert to B&W in post processing.
I shoot RAW so I don't have the option of the B&W settings in camera.
I know I could shoot JPEG but I don't usually decide to convert an image to B&W until I see it on the computer screen so it is already a RAW.
I usually use Lightroom or NIK Silver Efex Pro 2.

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May 13, 2018 23:37:23   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
rwilson1942 wrote:
The best approach, in my opinion, is to convert to B&W in post processing.
I shoot RAW so I don't have the option of the B&W settings in camera.
I know I could shoot JPEG but I don't usually decide to convert an image to B&W until I see it on the computer screen so it is already a RAW.
I usually use Lightroom or NIK Silver Efex Pro 2.


I would agree. Adjusting the individual colors to manipulate tones is preferable.

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May 14, 2018 00:15:02   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
Shoot color photos in RAW. In post-processing, convert to color. There's about 10 ways to do the latter.

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May 14, 2018 02:10:59   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
DWU2 wrote:
Shoot color photos in RAW. In post-processing, convert to color. There's about 10 ways to do the latter.


Care to repeat / amend that.... Like,"shoot in colour...convert to colour"?? And there's 10 ways of doing that??. For what purpose.??

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May 14, 2018 02:36:13   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
rwilson1942 wrote:
The best approach, in my opinion, is to convert to B&W in post processing.
I shoot RAW so I don't have the option of the B&W settings in camera.
I know I could shoot JPEG but I don't usually decide to convert an image to B&W until I see it on the computer screen so it is already a RAW.
I usually use Lightroom or NIK Silver Efex Pro 2.


Yes, but sometimes it would be nice to be able to get a rough idea how the scene would look rendered to b&w while you are shooting, by taking test shots with various b&w filter settings. Once you think you have something, you can then capture the scene as RAW for later processing and b&w conversion on the computer.

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May 14, 2018 07:26:59   #
millman221
 
just shoot bnw film :)

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May 14, 2018 07:44:36   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
If you shoot color and use a b&w converting software you will have all of those filters available to play with them.

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