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May 13, 2018 08:18:33   #
david vt Loc: Vermont
 
Hi

Shot my first track meet on Friday. Middleschool Very different from the X-country and Bball previously worked.

Posting two pics to get feedback on general composition for high-jump. I tried to get myself in a position where I could try to get faces and a sense of the action, but found the angles difficult as my subject, in addition to moving, is also 6 feet in the air (ie higher than my camera). Sun was off to my right side late mid afternoon sun. Was at the jumper’s feet, as it were.

Posting from my iPad via photostream, so my quick edits (cropping, straightening) did not come through. Sorry about that, but am traveling away from the main computer. that said, I wanted you to see what the basic shot was in the view finder. I did crop out much of the side of the blue mat and most of the sky.

In terms of my position vs subject and where I should be to capture this sport, looking for tips from some more experiences sports shooters for this particular sport. I wanted to see their face, but it was tough. Further to the right, and the shoulder blocked it. Further to the left, and got the top of their head.

Also, I found that tracking focus from the start of their run to the jump did not work well. With these, I focused on the middle of the bar with a medium DoF, locked the focus (finger off BBF), and then tracked and followed the athelete as they came to the bar, working to time the moment. Is this the right technique for this type of shot. If not, please recommend another way

I have 3 more meets to experiment with until the state finals, so I have to get this down quickly.

Thanks it advance for your help for this beginner

David

PS. Yes, that is my son, and he set a PR at 5-2 in the meet, taking 1st place in this middle school meet. Sorry - couldn’t resist. Many of you know this is why I got back into photography in the first place.


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May 14, 2018 06:41:15   #
david vt Loc: Vermont
 
to readers. Once I got off the plane, I noticed all the typos. Too late to allow me to edit, apparently. sorry about that

I guess what I am looking for is if YOU were trying to shot this particular meet, how/where would you set up to do so?

David

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May 14, 2018 09:59:10   #
Toby
 
david vt wrote:
Hi

Shot my first track meet on Friday. Middleschool Very different from the X-country and Bball previously worked.

Posting two pics to get feedback on general composition for high-jump. I tried to get myself in a position where I could try to get faces and a sense of the action, but found the angles difficult as my subject, in addition to moving, is also 6 feet in the air (ie higher than my camera). Sun was off to my right side late mid afternoon sun. Was at the jumper’s feet, as it were.

Posting from my iPad via photostream, so my quick edits (cropping, straightening) did not come through. Sorry about that, but am traveling away from the main computer. that said, I wanted you to see what the basic shot was in the view finder. I did crop out much of the side of the blue mat and most of the sky.

In terms of my position vs subject and where I should be to capture this sport, looking for tips from some more experiences sports shooters for this particular sport. I wanted to see their face, but it was tough. Further to the right, and the shoulder blocked it. Further to the left, and got the top of their head.

Also, I found that tracking focus from the start of their run to the jump did not work well. With these, I focused on the middle of the bar with a medium DoF, locked the focus (finger off BBF), and then tracked and followed the athelete as they came to the bar, working to time the moment. Is this the right technique for this type of shot. If not, please recommend another way

I have 3 more meets to experiment with until the state finals, so I have to get this down quickly.

Thanks it advance for your help for this beginner

David

PS. Yes, that is my son, and he set a PR at 5-2 in the meet, taking 1st place in this middle school meet. Sorry - couldn’t resist. Many of you know this is why I got back into photography in the first place.
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Looks to me as though you have the camera settings correct. about the only thing I would suggest is that you get lower and shoot up toward the sky which will help focus on your subject. Remember the sky will fool your meter so you will need to set compensation to lighten the stars face.

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May 14, 2018 10:47:13   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
david vt wrote:
Hi

Shot my first track meet on Friday. Middleschool Very different from the X-country and Bball previously worked.

Posting two pics to get feedback on general composition for high-jump. I tried to get myself in a position where I could try to get faces and a sense of the action, but found the angles difficult as my subject, in addition to moving, is also 6 feet in the air (ie higher than my camera). Sun was off to my right side late mid afternoon sun. Was at the jumper’s feet, as it were.

Posting from my iPad via photostream, so my quick edits (cropping, straightening) did not come through. Sorry about that, but am traveling away from the main computer. that said, I wanted you to see what the basic shot was in the view finder. I did crop out much of the side of the blue mat and most of the sky.

In terms of my position vs subject and where I should be to capture this sport, looking for tips from some more experiences sports shooters for this particular sport. I wanted to see their face, but it was tough. Further to the right, and the shoulder blocked it. Further to the left, and got the top of their head.

Also, I found that tracking focus from the start of their run to the jump did not work well. With these, I focused on the middle of the bar with a medium DoF, locked the focus (finger off BBF), and then tracked and followed the athelete as they came to the bar, working to time the moment. Is this the right technique for this type of shot. If not, please recommend another way

I have 3 more meets to experiment with until the state finals, so I have to get this down quickly.

Thanks it advance for your help for this beginner

David

PS. Yes, that is my son, and he set a PR at 5-2 in the meet, taking 1st place in this middle school meet. Sorry - couldn’t resist. Many of you know this is why I got back into photography in the first place.
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David: You have the right idea. I would try shooting from the sides left and right. Probably right to show your son's face.


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May 14, 2018 11:06:51   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Quickly. Camera/lens information would be helpful. One observation, I shoot ALL my sports action photos wide open, mostly F2.8 or larger. Cuts down background interference and allows viewer to focus on subject. My 70-200/2.8 is my workhorse for Track & Field. Best of luck. You will only get better with practice, so keep going out there.

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May 15, 2018 10:18:41   #
david vt Loc: Vermont
 
cjc2 wrote:
Quickly. Camera/lens information would be helpful. One observation, I shoot ALL my sports action photos wide open, mostly F2.8 or larger. Cuts down background interference and allows viewer to focus on subject. My 70-200/2.8 is my workhorse for Track & Field. Best of luck. You will only get better with practice, so keep going out there.


Hi. Thanks. I am using the 70-200 2.8 as well. I think I was about 25-30 ft at about 170mm.

I chose I think about an f5.6 or f8 as I was worried about DoF. At this range, the DoF on this lens (on my 7200) is about 18 inches at f2.8, which seems pretty small for a large human in motion coming at me. I would have liked the f2.8, but was worried about missing the focus. How do you deal with this?

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May 15, 2018 10:21:27   #
david vt Loc: Vermont
 
Jules Karney wrote:
David: You have the right idea. I would try shooting from the sides left and right. Probably right to show your son's face.


Hi Jules. Nice shots as always. I learn more each time you post. Alas, I wish the sun was coming from where it was in your shots (i.e. from the landing side of the bar) for me, but I was exactly opposite. Did not seem workable to ask them to turn the whole jump around just for me. (Would put in a smiley here, but it seems to only want to post at the end!)

Are you tracking focus on the head (I found that to be difficult to keep on subjects jumping), or did you prefocus and time the shot? if the latter, how are you dealing with DoF?

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May 15, 2018 10:32:10   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
david vt wrote:
Hi Jules. Nice shots as always. I learn more each time you post. Alas, I wish the sun was coming from where it was in your shots (i.e. from the landing side of the bar) for me, but I was exactly opposite. Did not seem workable to ask them to turn the whole jump around just for me. (Would put in a smiley here, but it seems to only want to post at the end!)

Are you tracking focus on the head (I found that to be difficult to keep on subjects jumping), or did you prefocus and time the shot? if the latter, how are you dealing with DoF?

Thanks
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David:
cj2 is right, about shooting wide open. Very important to separate as much as possible the subject from the background. My shots I was trying to show you the angles that are possible for high jumping.
I focus on the subject with either D9 or group with the D500. Focus on the start of the jump and follow them thru the jump. Just aim for the chest if that is easier for you.

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May 15, 2018 15:15:06   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
david vt wrote:
Hi. Thanks. I am using the 70-200 2.8 as well. I think I was about 25-30 ft at about 170mm.

I chose I think about an f5.6 or f8 as I was worried about DoF. At this range, the DoF on this lens (on my 7200) is about 18 inches at f2.8, which seems pretty small for a large human in motion coming at me. I would have liked the f2.8, but was worried about missing the focus. How do you deal with this?


First of all, DOF is distant dependent, so it's not universally 18" at all focus distances. If you intend to shoot sports action, you need to blur the background, which means to shoot wide open. Of course, if you do this your focus needs to be spot on, and this takes practice. I strongly suggest you get in as much practice as you can, and you will see yourself that you will become better. Experience is what you need, and you can only get that through practice. Don't make the mistake of only shooting your kids/grandkids, shoot everything that moves fast that you can. Practice, practice and more practice WILL make you better. Best of luck.

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