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May 10, 2018 09:35:19   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
I have not done too much experimenting panoramas, but here is one I did a couple of days ago. Unfortunately I cut off the top of the barn, but can always go back and do this again, since it was local. Not an exciting picture, but I learned a lot doing it. Had to go back and fiddle with the Hereford cow because she changed position and that made it look like she had two rear ends!


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May 11, 2018 06:56:22   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
Did you shoot in portrait mode?
How many shots?
I think it is an interesting panorama - good detail, good color

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May 11, 2018 09:59:06   #
UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT
 
Nice work!

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May 11, 2018 11:34:37   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
Definitely worth reshooting. As asked above, try to shoot vertically and frame generously. You can always crop later. I suspect that if you adjust clarity, contrast, and vibrance, the scene will pop more. If you do not like two posteriors, you can always elimnate one. A nice benefit of shooting panoramas with a lot of overlap.

Do post the reshoot.

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May 11, 2018 11:42:27   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
BboH wrote:
Did you shoot in portrait mode?
How many shots?
I think it is an interesting panorama - good detail, good color

Hi! Thank you for the compliments.

Yes I did shoot in portrait mode so I would not lose anything I wanted to keep when the images were stitched together.

There were 8 photos, but when I stitched them the first time, discovered that the Hereford cow had moved, and it looked like she had two butts! I had to go back and work out how to change that without losing any part of the barn. [The program won't stitch if it cannot match up any of the pieces.] Ended up stitching in two parts, pasting in the one where the cow had moved, editing her out and then moving the images around so they overlapped accurately. Quite a process! I am new at this, and perhaps there is a better way, but every time I tried things the program would not stitch.

Susan

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May 11, 2018 11:44:11   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
UTMike wrote:
Nice work!

Thank you! Still needs some more work, or even a re-shoot to include the top of the barn.

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May 11, 2018 11:49:29   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
abc1234 wrote:
Definitely worth reshooting. As asked above, try to shoot vertically and frame generously. You can always crop later. I suspect that if you adjust clarity, contrast, and vibrance, the scene will pop more. If you do not like two posteriors, you can always elimnate one. A nice benefit of shooting panoramas with a lot of overlap.

Do post the reshoot.

Thank you for the comments and advice. I did shoot vertically with lots of overlap, but did not plan ahead well enough so I did not cut off the top of the barn. The editing process was getting frustrating, so I did not do as much as I would have liked. And I had a hard time with eliminating that extra posterior! See my post above for an explanation of what I ended up doing.

When I get a chance, I will re-shoot because that farm is not all that far away from where I live, even though it is the third town north of me. And then I will post it again.

Susan

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May 11, 2018 12:29:22   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
SusanFromVermont wrote:
Thank you for the comments and advice. I did shoot vertically with lots of overlap, but did not plan ahead well enough so I did not cut off the top of the barn. The editing process was getting frustrating, so I did not do as much as I would have liked. And I had a hard time with eliminating that extra posterior! See my post above for an explanation of what I ended up doing.

When I get a chance, I will re-shoot because that farm is not all that far away from where I live, even though it is the third town north of me. And then I will post it again.

Susan
Thank you for the comments and advice. I did shoo... (show quote)


If you work with a program that either clones or supports layers, then your job may have been easier. What software did you use for stitching and editing?

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May 11, 2018 12:53:42   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
abc1234 wrote:
If you work with a program that either clones or supports layers, then your job may have been easier. What software did you use for stitching and editing?

I use LR and PS. Forget which one I used for the stitching, but most editing done in PS because LR won't open a PSD file.

I tried several ways to fix the 2-part cow. I don't know if it is possible to clone from one layer to the other, something to look into, but the stitched photo the distortion was too severe to clone in background to cover the unwanted part.

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May 11, 2018 13:27:05   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
SusanFromVermont wrote:
I use LR and PS. Forget which one I used for the stitching, but most editing done in PS because LR won't open a PSD file.

I tried several ways to fix the 2-part cow. I don't know if it is possible to clone from one layer to the other, something to look into, but the stitched photo the distortion was too severe to clone in background to cover the unwanted part.


Ok, you have serious software. You can stitch in both LR and PS. Both have the same tool. Did you try using content-aware to fill in the borders? I use it all the time on those empty areas after stitching. I would try to remove the second rear by placing the panorama layer on top of the one rear layer. Draw a mask around the second romp and then erase it. This creates a hole in the top layer and the bottom layer comes through.

If you used a tripod, then you should have very little distortion if any. I presume the distortion is that the horizontals are not straight.

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May 11, 2018 14:32:29   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
I did not see where content-aware was offered! Something else to learn. What I ended up doing is doing separate stitchings of the images on either side of the guilty frame. Then I cropped out the aberrant cow. Next using the move tool I arranged the images so they were lined up properly. After that, I started to make some adjustments and discovered that my placements had somehow become one image! So then I could edit all at once. Not sure how that happened!

Your description of a solution is interesting. Will have to try that.

I did use a tripod. The distortion I was referring to was the appearance of the double-rump cow, where the unwanted rump was more visible than the wanted rump!

This discussion is very helpful because, as I said, I am just starting to do stitched panoramas. By the way, perhaps you can help with something that happened. After I had merged the layers so I could save it as a .tiff into LR, I exported it to a different file as a .jpg. The .jpg looks good, but now I cannot find the original image anywhere! Whether I did something wrong, or I did not do something I should have, that image is gone. The version I edited that resulted in that final one is still on my computer, and I can always go back and re-edit. But I am trying to figure out what happened.

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May 12, 2018 10:56:29   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
Susan
If you intend to go more extensively into panoramas take a look at PTGui - it is a dedicated stitching program and can do almost anything you want to do. It will convert and stitch RAW, handle bracketing and eliminating the double rumps without layering. You can save as JPG, Tiff or for the web. If you are interested in 360/180 and/or multi-row panoramas it handles them quite easily. I believe there is still a 30 day free trial. There is a very active forum to which you can post any kind of question and get informative answers.

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May 15, 2018 11:04:18   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
SusanFromVermont wrote:
I have not done too much experimenting panoramas, but here is one I did a couple of days ago. Unfortunately I cut off the top of the barn, but can always go back and do this again, since it was local. Not an exciting picture, but I learned a lot doing it. Had to go back and fiddle with the Hereford cow because she changed position and that made it look like she had two rear ends!


Susan, I primarily use two programs for stitching. Photoshop or Microsoft's Image Composite Editor. Often when one has a problem with the images the other will be able to handle them. In all honesty I find the MS program to the better one. Both in its ability to handle projects that PS won't and in its output choices. Did I also mention it is a free download?

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May 15, 2018 12:45:36   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
BboH wrote:
Susan
If you intend to go more extensively into panoramas take a look at PTGui - it is a dedicated stitching program and can do almost anything you want to do. It will convert and stitch RAW, handle bracketing and eliminating the double rumps without layering. You can save as JPG, Tiff or for the web. If you are interested in 360/180 and/or multi-row panoramas it handles them quite easily. I believe there is still a 30 day free trial. There is a very active forum to which you can post any kind of question and get informative answers.
Susan br If you intend to go more extensively into... (show quote)

Rich1939 wrote:
Susan, I primarily use two programs for stitching. Photoshop or Microsoft's Image Composite Editor. Often when one has a problem with the images the other will be able to handle them. In all honesty I find the MS program to the better one. Both in its ability to handle projects that PS won't and in its output choices. Did I also mention it is a free download?

Thank you both for the suggestions. I have not heard of PTGui, but have seen ICE mentioned. I will look into them.

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May 22, 2018 01:21:47   #
Vince68 Loc: Wappingers Falls, NY
 
Other than missing the top of the barn as you said, its nicely done. Good detail, sharp, nice color.

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