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May 10, 2018 12:30:06   #
gwilliams6
 
Likewise for your understanding of what I have said. I am really just trying to answer the OP's question looking for the upper limit for megapixels and handholding. There is NO demonstrable sweet spot or upper limit. Handholding techniques, shutter speed appropriate for the lens focal length and subject, and any lens and/or IBIS stabilization will have more affect on apparent blur than your sensor's megapixel count. Cheers

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May 10, 2018 20:57:26   #
Angmo
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Anyone that recommends a lower megapixel sensor to avoid visible camera blurring is missing the point here. Any apparent less blurring is negated by the lower ultimate resolution and increased noise inherent in smaller megapixel sensors, especially in low light where a slower shutter speed may be unavoidable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJKYsli1Ihg&t=672s Tony Northrup discusses and compares a popular APS-C sensor camera vs a popular full frame sensor camera.

The OP and anyone interested in less camera blur should concentrate more on their camera steadying techniques, using proper shutter speeds for their lens focal lengths and utilizing lens and/or IBIS stabilization.

Pixel peeping aside, there is no "holy grail" or "sweet spot" of megapixel sensor size to avoid showing camera blur. Choose your megapixel sensor size by the image quality and ultimate resolution that fits your photography needs, then learn how to properly negate camera blur.

Cheers
Anyone that recommends a lower megapixel sensor to... (show quote)

Huh? That’s not the point. Less forgiving of poor technique is more the point. Or maybe a good lens with lower res camera but now shows issues at higher res when enlarged.

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May 14, 2018 12:26:02   #
gwilliams6
 
Angmo wrote:
Huh? That’s not the point. Less forgiving of poor technique is more the point. Or maybe a good lens with lower res camera but now shows issues at higher res when enlarged.


Cant correct or solve motion blur by just going to a lower res camera, that is silly. Better technique and proper camera settings for your subject is what everyone should be aiming for. You want the best image quality for your camera budget. Then learn how to properly use it. Don't try hiding behind poorer image quality, folks. Cheers

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May 14, 2018 13:38:49   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Elsiss wrote:
Gorgeous crop, Gene. For all cat lovers, and there are many, this would be a wonderful wall-hanger.


Thanks!

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May 14, 2018 17:53:58   #
barryb Loc: Kansas
 
I didn't go through all 5 pages but some of the answers were not from people who have never shot with a higher meg sensor. I've had 16, 36, and 42 meg sensors, and there is a difference, and your technique shortcoming is displayed after you get past the 24 meg sensors. Easiest way to explain is there are SO many more pixels on the 36 and especially the 42, that even a slight movement in the camera the "extra" pixels pick up the movement, and the picture comes out with a softer focus instead of being tack sharp. When I was first talking to the Nikon rep, he recommended increasing the shutter one stop from what you were used to on a lower meg camera. I can usually do fine with my 24-70, even down to 1/30, and can do ok on my 2.8 80-200 with a little higher shutter. Honestly, I have always used a tripod on my 150-600, unless I was using a sandbag or other support. If you are shooting birds I will have it mounted on a gimbal head, for sure. I don't know if I could get the same results with the 200-500, but there is a reason you see the monopods on the big lenses on the sports fields. The pros for me are twofold: first you can crop like mad and still get a great enlargement. I have taken a picture at 30-50 feet, and can zoom in on the camera and tell what color their eyes are on my 850! The negative is the files are massive, up to 50 meg per pic on jpeg, and 80 or more on raw. You can fill up a 32 tb card in no time. good luck!

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May 15, 2018 17:59:05   #
gwilliams6
 
imagemeister wrote:
It is NOT the sensor size - but the pixel pitch or density. The smaller pitch or greater density is able to reveal smaller levels of blurring.- that may go unseen at greater pixel pitch.

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https://photorumors.com/2018/05/15/cp-interview-with-sony/

Sony Exec says Pixel surface area matters more than pixel density.

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May 15, 2018 20:44:42   #
barryb Loc: Kansas
 
We are getting in the tall grass, but I read the photorumors piece and the pertinent line seemed to be: Pixel surface area matters more than the depth. What I'm not sure is the pixel depth is the same as pixel density. It is my impression first: full frame has the same area, regardless of the meg rating. second, the higher meg sensors have MORE pixels on the sensors, but not certain about what the pixel depth involves.

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